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I'm curious: how, exactly, did it go from this is painful to read due to AI, to no one cares about AI use and you demanded quality when you used it and delivered?
It didn't, it went from "this reeks from AI after edits, here's a tool that can help" to "people can read past it but there are better ways, you must demand quality". I don't think those two things are inconsistent.
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It didn't, it went from "this reeks from AI after edits, here's a tool that can help" to "people can read past it but there are better ways, you must demand quality". I don't think those two things are inconsistent.
Ah, I see, after he uses the tool it'll be great because he has taste.
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Ah, I see, after he uses the tool it'll be great because he has taste.
I don't think "if you iterate on this, try using some tools, and ultimately demand that the output meet or exceed your demonstrated taste in other domains" is a hot take, honestly.
I'm more hot about it because it's frustrating having so many HN posts be a place for people to work out first drafts, especially when the first piece of feedback is "hey, uh, you clearly used AI and it's horrible to read as a result." So easy to avoid...good on you for being kinder.
(part of my frustration is I was excited because I write an local LLM client and thought I missed Gemma 4 has streaming video input support, but after reading through the slop it turns out its just the ol' "extract frames" workflow. tbf that would have happened AI or not, but put me in a mood)
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Ok I scrambled to finalize a name for it and create a new repo for it - https://github.com/Simbastack-hq/framedex PS - I just put this together in the last few mins, removed my personal files and references. So it's not tested properly, please let me know if any issues. It's still an early hack, but I have thousands of still images as well from my camera which I've not processed and I need to do the same analysis for…
Hey friend, try something in this ballpark, your post has a bunch of painful AI tropes: https://github.com/blader/humanizer You get a pass here because you're doing really cool stuff but it's kinda tough to read past the AI nonsense, and it's relatively easy to screen out "it's not x it's y" kind of things and the bolded bullet points.
Hiding these clues by another AI pass doesn't solve the core problem. Now you just end up with content that camouflaged better but is still equally low in nutritional value.
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Thanks for this! This is exactly what I was looking for. Tbh, I have a lot of thoughts and ideas and things to share and I do spend time and effort trying to de-AI-ing it but this should help a lot. I'll try it out. In fact, I was expecting getting shit on by HN readers for this but was pleasantly surprised that readers moved past it.
They haven't: this is the top thread, and the entire threads is saying its unreadable and explaining step by step how to do the basics you should have done before you posted. I'm not sure why you're pleasantly surprised, I would have expected embarrassed, and taken down the HN post to get at least the basics down before sharing it under my name (if possible, dunno how HN submissions work)
My take is that B2C AI applications are kind of structurally limited by how hard it is to build personalized context. The idea of capable local models could be a huge unlock here if they are able to do the bottom-up context collection research / tagging / etc. at scale.
But I can tell it's only a matter of time before agents become smart enough to let my non-tech friends be able to just say "Make sense of all these videos in my folder" and it just does it.
The subject matter is interesting but the amount of slop makes it difficult to read through. Yeah, it's great that you can throw your technical problems at Claude without caring much about the generated output but treating your own writing that you actually want to share with the world the same way is a terrible idea.
But because of the fear of non-perfection, I used to put away things like creating this article or even posting it anywhere. And I do think the article has real value that HN would appreciate (I am myself an HN-enthusiast).
I'll try more. Someone else shared this project which would be really helpful - https://github.com/blader/humanizer
Also a side note, the blog is posted on my self-created Slopit.io platform which is purely meant for your personal agents (working along with you) to post content - I recommend trying it out. https://blog.slopit.io/this-blog-post-is-slop/
I know, things are getting difficult with all the slop around, but my personal opinion is, as the agents get better at writing, the "annoying-ness" factor reduces and pieces of substance will still be appreciated, even if it was written by agents. This and the fact that agents aren't going away.
If I've automated a lot of my coding, I feel like engineers like me would naturally progress to also taking agents' help to write useful content.
PS - this comment was 100% hand-typed.
So do they run the lodge or what?
(Also email is in my profile).