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Flipper One Tech Specs

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Re: Flipper One Tech Specs

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Why put such crappy display on such a high power device?

That's pretty simple - the chosen display is best for core usage. Cleay visible in bright sun or dark, sharp angles, easy on the battery. For anything else, there's a HDMI out isn't there.

Them actually calling it HDMI now stood out to me. They made a point of avoiding that before.

Re: Flipper One Tech Specs

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maybe I'm blind, but it looks like there's no radio! like there's wifi and bluetooth, sure, but I don't see NFC or RFID or sub-1ghz radio, at all. imo the flipper always needed to be a software-defined transciever, with a small FPGA to drive it, like the other SDRs on the market. I'm disappointed they seem to have forsaken radio completely.

Most likely you will have to buy the M2 adapters, for cellular, wifi, maybe zigbee and others radios, and you will switch between them, it’s also good for their profit but bad for your pocket.

Re: Flipper One Tech Specs

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While I am fan for all the extra nerdy stuff, especially the cellular connectivity, but I doubt the battery endurance will be impressive, my current zero lasts weeks on a single charge. This is more of rpi plus addons in one package, great, but until we get to know the heat and battery life.

They mention in the comments intending to have modes that solely run on the microcontroller, so I imagine that might help somewhat.

This also feels like the target market is people who said they dangled this off an RPi-alike to do something that the microcontroller simply did not have the processing to do.

Re: Flipper One Tech Specs

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I have a Flipper Zero and I've used it... occasionally. Like that one time controlling the Taylor Swift Eras tour wristbands: https://blog.jgc.org/2024/05/controlling-taylor-swift-eras-t... but it's mostly sat around being an odd device. I duplicated a couple of RFID things, used the IR for some stuff, and once in a while used the radio receiver, but mostly it looks pretty. I'm not sure what I'd do with a Flipper One…

Heh... I used Flipper Zero to clone RFID tags for all the neighbors to T5577 rings, pins, sticky pads and whatever not for our gated community. If you are adventurous, many ski stations have low-tech cards as well, although they also tend to have human controllers once in a while. And, finally, kids like running around with Flipper Zero opening power taps on Teslas.

> And, finally, kids like running around with Flipper Zero opening power taps on Teslas.

one time I parked in a tesla near to a bank of superchargers.

every time someone hooked up their car to charge (pressing the button on the charging cable), my charge port would swing open.

every minute or two...

Re: Flipper One Tech Specs

#46
post #4

maybe I'm blind, but it looks like there's no radio! like there's wifi and bluetooth, sure, but I don't see NFC or RFID or sub-1ghz radio, at all. imo the flipper always needed to be a software-defined transciever, with a small FPGA to drive it, like the other SDRs on the market. I'm disappointed they seem to have forsaken radio completely.

I wonder if that means they can sell them on amazon now.

Re: Flipper One Tech Specs

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I've heard some professionally inclined RFID engineers dismiss these as mere toys and not useful compared to professional grade hardware. Perhaps some of those folk are on HN if so what are the tool sets you actually use that can be sold to the public?

It’s not a toy, it’s an AIO portable hacking budget device, it’s like comparing your pocket swiss knife to your workshop. Obviously your workshop will be better, but you are not taking it anywhere! I have for example a bladRF and limeSDR for more in depth work in radios, but I do still use flipper occasionally where bringing a laptop+sdr+antenna is hard or impossible, let alone looking like a dork doing so. For rfid, it’s great to put all your keyfobs in one place and backing them up, the condo I live in right now charges $50 if you lost your fob and needed a replacement, among many other usages. And those are some of the very basic use cases where it’s handy to have it portable.

I think in Canada they were trying to ban it!

Re: Flipper One Tech Specs

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I wasn't expecting the Ethernet ports. I would love to be able to plug this in an know in a second what tagged vlans are preset, what addr/mask the DHCP server offered, is PXE an option? blink an LED if there's a new RA, ipv6 neighbor, etc. Blink an LED if there's been a 802.3x pause frame in the last 500ms, or 802.3Qbb while we're at it. With the pair of ports, let me MITM so the 802.1X negotiation can take place be…

More ideas:

let me build an ARP table, then give me a button to send WoL packets to host(s) of my choosing.

Let me generate p0f fingerprints on MITM'd traffic.

Re: Flipper One Tech Specs

#49
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I've heard some professionally inclined RFID engineers dismiss these as mere toys and not useful compared to professional grade hardware. Perhaps some of those folk are on HN if so what are the tool sets you actually use that can be sold to the public?

A hackrf is less expensive than a flipper and more capable in every way, except the dolphin gifs.

The flipper's primary use is that looks like a children's toy, which makes it far more effective for demos of how bad an orgs security is to not-especially-technical stakeholders than something like a hackrf or chameleon

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