What if they use advanced evasion techniques like printing it out and scanning it or taking a photo with their phone?
SynthID is fairly resistant to this sort of thing, although not perfect.
OpenAI Adopts Google's SynthID Watermark for AI Images with Verification Tool
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Re: OpenAI Adopts Google's SynthID Watermark for AI Images with Verification Tool
#42What information is included in the metadata or SynthID? How many bits can be encoded in a SynthID? Can it be used to create something like nutritional labels for synthetic content? 10% synthetic text, 30 synthetic images. Your reality was 15% synthetic today (75% mega corp, 25% open-weight neocloud).
I guess the SynthID-Image paper from Oct 2025[0] was an encoder-decoder for which they tested checking a flag or a 136 bit payload in 512x512 images and the watermark's robustness after various transformations.
Presumably the deployed version is meaningfully different.
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#43Re: OpenAI Adopts Google's SynthID Watermark for AI Images with Verification Tool
#44This is just performative nonsense. As someone that creates things with tools with different media I would just hard avoid this tool that adds... arbitrary metadata not of my choosing. Should I seriously make a texture for a videogame with this weird DRM glorp in it? How old is photoshop and why is it exempt?
> How old is photoshop and why is it exempt?
How does today’s maximum theoretical disinformation output per minute compare to 2021 Photoshop?
Re: OpenAI Adopts Google's SynthID Watermark for AI Images with Verification Tool
#45What happens if you generate an image with only a single pixel color or say two colors?
Re: OpenAI Adopts Google's SynthID Watermark for AI Images with Verification Tool
#46This is just performative nonsense. As someone that creates things with tools with different media I would just hard avoid this tool that adds... arbitrary metadata not of my choosing. Should I seriously make a texture for a videogame with this weird DRM glorp in it? How old is photoshop and why is it exempt?
>How old is photoshop and why is it exempt?
I'm sure you can think of a couple things that differentiate gen AI from photoshop, I believe in you.
Re: OpenAI Adopts Google's SynthID Watermark for AI Images with Verification Tool
#47What happens if you generate an image with only a single pixel color or say two colors?
You waste a lot of compute on overhead?
Re: OpenAI Adopts Google's SynthID Watermark for AI Images with Verification Tool
#48What information is included in the metadata or SynthID? How many bits can be encoded in a SynthID? Can it be used to create something like nutritional labels for synthetic content? 10% synthetic text, 30 synthetic images. Your reality was 15% synthetic today (75% mega corp, 25% open-weight neocloud).
Don’t think that would be possible. If I paste a synthetic piece into an otherwise organic image, the synth id isn’t going to know that.
Re: OpenAI Adopts Google's SynthID Watermark for AI Images with Verification Tool
#49Good. Despite people saying it will be removed, I have seen no reproducible repo demonstrating it.
It will but many people won't as i've seen disinformation that could be detected by synth-id.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
These systems should be removed. This is antithetical to freedom and privacy. There should be no way for anyone to track down who posted a political meme, anti-religious message, or any other legally protected speech. This will come back to bite us in the ass if we keep building it. Soon every image or communication we make will be watermarked if we continue to let this shit seep into the commons. Everything from you…
That's a lot of hyperbole, there's no cause/effect relationship I can think of here that could realistically produce your slippery slope. Google or anyone else could start adding those unique tracking watermarks you're concerned about any time they want, regardless of whether they use this AI detection watermark, that to be clear can not track you in any way.
I'm not going to mince words - what you're saying is dangerous and harmful.
> to be clear can not track you in any way
All they have to do is encode enough entropy for a database unique identifier. Systems like this have been used to do it for audio:
https://github.com/swesterfeld/audiowmark
SynthID payloads work the same way, and the paper discusses encoding a "user identifier":
https://arxiv.org/html/2510.09263v1#S5
All you need to do is encode a database identifier, GeoIP, or other identifying information, and you've violated a person's privacy without their knowledge or consent.
Once these systems become popular, the intelligence agencies will "suggest" that Google adds it to their phone cameras. It will start seeping into everything.
The "slippery slope" is not a fallacy. We're on the verge of having device attestation and identity verification to use the internet. This is so beyond fucked.
Stop defending this.
Saying this is okay is EVIL.