Iran's chief strategy in this war seems to be to harm Iraq and Saudi Arabia
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Iran demands Big Tech pay fees for undersea Internet cables in Strait of Hormuz
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Re: Iran demands Big Tech pay fees for undersea Internet cables in Strait of Hormuz
#42The Strait of Hormuz is a such a historical f-up. 1) It cuts the oil supply 2) It creates the demand and infrastructure for non-US backed Oil 3) It gives Iran a revenue stream and domain over taxing the Strait where none existed before 4) Crypto happens outstide of reach of most sanctions 5) Not knowing your footing: This has now encompassed the placement of underseas cables and global connectivity 5) As time goes on…
1) Oman and Iran both have territorial waters that extend into the center of the strait. See #3 2) What is "non-US backed oil? 3) Every country has the right to control their territorial waters. 4) Governments have worked hard to erode people's privacy rights such that crypto is not as untraceable as people still think. 5) ? 5) ? 6) Let it happen.
These objections seem confused. The person you are replying to is not attacking Iran, but you seem to be defending Iran. They're saying that attacking Iran was a stupid idea, because it caused Iran to strangle the Strait of Hormuz, a thing they hadn't done and that there was no indication that they were considering doing before the attack.
It's even stupider than the OP said. Aside from the strait, when you destroy Iran's oil facilities, you raise the price of oil for the foreseeable future. When Iran retaliates by destroying the oil facilities of local allies, it raises the price of oil for the foreseeable future. The only beneficiaries are oilmen in the US, Russia and South America, and the US is also supposed to be attacking Russia and South America.
Re: Iran demands Big Tech pay fees for undersea Internet cables in Strait of Hormuz
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're taking this claim way too seriously. Iran is at war. This part of the information war. Nobody is going to pay fees to Iran to use internet cables.
What's to stop Iran from using the threat of cutting those cables as leverage? A speedboat and a depth charge are all it takes, and neither are particularly difficult to make.
The problem is that you can only do it once.
Re: Iran demands Big Tech pay fees for undersea Internet cables in Strait of Hormuz
#44The Strait of Hormuz is a such a historical f-up. 1) It cuts the oil supply 2) It creates the demand and infrastructure for non-US backed Oil 3) It gives Iran a revenue stream and domain over taxing the Strait where none existed before 4) Crypto happens outstide of reach of most sanctions 5) Not knowing your footing: This has now encompassed the placement of underseas cables and global connectivity 5) As time goes on…
Starting a war with Iran without filling the Strategic Petroleum Reserves at $60/bbl was truly special.
At what point can we just commonly agree that the goals of this "administration" are to do as much damage as possible to the United States? I'm sure there are some true believers (eg Trump himself would be just as much at home yelling racist abuse at nursing home staff), and many that are just in it to steal as much as they can. But the people whispering in ears and the overall support is driven by powers that want to destroy the United States - whether it's Russia, Israel, China, Big Tech who want to turn the place into a corporate authoritarian hellhole, or all of them together with their own pet projects. And that so many Americans continue to buy into this administration's nonsense narratives really illustrates an undercurrent of hate for this country that has been brewing for decades.
Re: Iran demands Big Tech pay fees for undersea Internet cables in Strait of Hormuz
#45The Strait of Hormuz is a such a historical f-up. 1) It cuts the oil supply 2) It creates the demand and infrastructure for non-US backed Oil 3) It gives Iran a revenue stream and domain over taxing the Strait where none existed before 4) Crypto happens outstide of reach of most sanctions 5) Not knowing your footing: This has now encompassed the placement of underseas cables and global connectivity 5) As time goes on…
It was clear from very early on that this war was (IMHO) the largest strategic blunder in US history and it's not even close. Prior to this, closing the Strait was an untested threat. This war forced Iran to prove they can in fact close the Strait and there's nothing the largest military on Earth can do about it. Well done, everybody, the system works. The one point I'll disagree with is that sanctions do prevent you…
> I mean, you can fund your own wallet and give money to Iran but you've technically committed a crime and a pretty serious one.
Other countries aren't subject to any US laws. The threat of US sanctions are a just a threat, not any sort of law enforcement.
Re: Iran demands Big Tech pay fees for undersea Internet cables in Strait of Hormuz
#46Iran's chief strategy in this war seems to be to harm Iraq and Saudi Arabia
Their enemy has bases there
Re: Iran demands Big Tech pay fees for undersea Internet cables in Strait of Hormuz
#47The Strait of Hormuz is a such a historical f-up. 1) It cuts the oil supply 2) It creates the demand and infrastructure for non-US backed Oil 3) It gives Iran a revenue stream and domain over taxing the Strait where none existed before 4) Crypto happens outstide of reach of most sanctions 5) Not knowing your footing: This has now encompassed the placement of underseas cables and global connectivity 5) As time goes on…
Starting a war with Iran without filling the Strategic Petroleum Reserves at $60/bbl was truly special.
Refilling the SPR would’ve required finding money to actually buy some oil. Put simply the SPR is broke/in debt.
Over the last few years congress passed pieces of legislation (infrastructure bills, healthcare changes, BBB) and used future SPR oil sales as an "offsetting receipt". Basically they say the’ll sell off millions of barrels of SPR holdings, count the future revenue as negative spending on paper, and use that money to pay for entirely unrelated legislative projects to make bills look deficit-neutral.
Yet another source for deficit spending (to the tune of $20bn) that doesn’t even show up in the headline numbers. Borrowing from future generations yet again.
(Sorry this is the kind of thing that grinds my gears - setting up some organization that is intended to be revenue neutral and self sufficient, then plundering it when politically useful. Same thing is happening to the Presidio park in SF right now)
Re: Iran demands Big Tech pay fees for undersea Internet cables in Strait of Hormuz
#48The Strait of Hormuz is a such a historical f-up. 1) It cuts the oil supply 2) It creates the demand and infrastructure for non-US backed Oil 3) It gives Iran a revenue stream and domain over taxing the Strait where none existed before 4) Crypto happens outstide of reach of most sanctions 5) Not knowing your footing: This has now encompassed the placement of underseas cables and global connectivity 5) As time goes on…
When you put it like that I am starting to think this Trump guy might not be that good of a leader, this time neither.
Re: Iran demands Big Tech pay fees for undersea Internet cables in Strait of Hormuz
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
> What's to stop Iran What's to stop them? The enormous pile of ordnance floating in the gulf of oman that can be easily dropped on Tehran, for one...
> The enormous pile of ordnance floating in the gulf of oman that can be easily dropped on Tehran, for one Probably not. The other comment is right: cutting cables means having its own cables cut. (Tehran is also probably weighing whether it wants to continue mobilising almost all of its neighbors against itself. Trashing e.g. Kuwait for shits and giggles isn't strategically productive.)
Tehran is also probably weighing whether it wants to continue mobilising almost all of its neighbors against itself
Interesting point. It might be a good time for some good old-fashioned false-flag action.
Re: Iran demands Big Tech pay fees for undersea Internet cables in Strait of Hormuz
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
It was clear from very early on that this war was (IMHO) the largest strategic blunder in US history and it's not even close. Prior to this, closing the Strait was an untested threat. This war forced Iran to prove they can in fact close the Strait and there's nothing the largest military on Earth can do about it. Well done, everybody, the system works. The one point I'll disagree with is that sanctions do prevent you…
> I mean, you can fund your own wallet and give money to Iran but you've technically committed a crime and a pretty serious one. Other countries aren't subject to any US laws. The threat of US sanctions are a just a threat , not any sort of law enforcement.
> The threat of US sanctions are a just a threat, not any sort of law enforcement.
The threat of arrest is a just a threat, not any sort of law enforcement.
The threat of handcuffs is a just a threat, not any sort of law enforcement.
The threat of tasering is a just a threat, not any sort of law enforcement.
The threat of criminal charges is a just a threat, not any sort of law enforcement.
The threat of drone strikes is a just a threat, not any sort of law enforcement.
The threat of literally having your President helicoptered out of your capital by US special forces is a just a threat, not any sort of law enforcement.
This is fun!