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Re: OpenBSD 7.9

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Post by SanjayMehta »

mxuribe wrote: post #30
nelsonic wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We use OpenBSD for our VPSes on Hetzner, bare metal (for security focussed clients) and older (but still good) hardware in our Home Lab. OpenBSD is excellent on older (no longer supported by Cupertino) Apple hardware. We have an Intel Mac Mini Cluster with near-perfect uptime. If you need to run any kind of server (Web, Mail, DNS, NFS, Database) where you need stability & security, look no further. Some learning curv…

Have you tried such Openbsd installations vs FreeBSD? I forget the differences between OpenBSD and FreeBSD, so forgive the naivety. (I think NetBSD is more for embedded stuff, and Ghost and Dragonfly are more for conventional desktop use-cases if i recall correctly.) I'm asking because i have not touched any BSD for over 2 decades...and I'm getting the itch to try some out...and was wondering if for server-type use c…

OpenBSD is security focused while FreeBSD will remind you of older X-Windows workstations.

Re: OpenBSD 7.9

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Post by seethishat »

clbrmbr wrote: post #10

Anyone here using OpenBSD? If so, for what purpose? I’ve always wanted to use NetBSD for an application for an embedded system / IoT device but never had the pleasure (yet!).

I run it. Home firewall, office desktops and laptops. It's pretty stable and I'm fairly familiar with it. Really simple if you know Unix. I hope it never goes away, not sure what I would replace it with. Linux is so complicated now, it's just too much for me to deal with

Re: OpenBSD 7.9

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Post by sshine »

Galanwe wrote: post #31
clbrmbr wrote: post #10

Anyone here using OpenBSD? If so, for what purpose? I’ve always wanted to use NetBSD for an application for an embedded system / IoT device but never had the pleasure (yet!).

I use it on my personal laptop, essentially because I like how slim and simple it is. Packaging is simple, kernel development and upgrade is simple, etc. Also the kernel code itself is written in a style I like, it's to the point, no useless abstractions, no fuss. I prefer it even amongst other BSDs I tried (netbsd and free*lbsd/dragonfly). It just feels nice to be able to understand most of your system. It's not as…

> I like how slim and simple it is.

I ran OpenBSD on my laptop 22 years ago. Back then, a full GUI environment with terminal, web browser, editor: 28MiB of memory for the whole operating system and user environment!

Re: OpenBSD 7.9

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Post by kriro »

I used it a bit, had it installed for a while on a G4 PowerBook (must have been early-ish 2000s). I like the no-nonsense attitude towards blobs, security focus. Overall the experience was very good. The bit of code I read was also written nicely. I'll always endorse it and should really install it somewhere again in the near future.

This is also the 60th release. Congrats team.

Re: OpenBSD 7.9

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Post by seethishat »

ska80 wrote: post #25

I wish OpenBSD supported Bluetooth. Unfortunately, its absence is a deal breaker for me. I did use OpenBSD on the desktop it was great.

They did for awhile, but removed it due to complexity and security issues.

Re: OpenBSD 7.9

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Post by sjmulder »

Decabytes wrote: post #32

How do the various BSDs run on framework laptops?

I dual boot OpenBSD on it, and it's been doing fine. The out of the box experience is pretty bare although the default window manager cwm is surprisingly nice once you get to know it. Note that apmd, the power management daemon used to manage CPU speed and low-battery suspend, is not enabled by default. The high-DPI screen required some adjustments in Xresources (I haven't dared try a multi-monitor, mixed DPI setup).

NetBSD seemed okay to but I've only used it a little bit. It actually set up X pretty well for the screen using some built in script with heuristics to determine font size from the screen metrics.

Re: OpenBSD 7.9

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Post by riedel »

nelsonic wrote: post #37
mxuribe wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried such Openbsd installations vs FreeBSD? I forget the differences between OpenBSD and FreeBSD, so forgive the naivety. (I think NetBSD is more for embedded stuff, and Ghost and Dragonfly are more for conventional desktop use-cases if i recall correctly.) I'm asking because i have not touched any BSD for over 2 decades...and I'm getting the itch to try some out...and was wondering if for server-type use c…

FreeBSD has the same roots as OpenBSD but the former has a “compatibility” focus whereas the latter has the security focus. Having a background in security, the choice was obvious for me. But each person/org should decide based on their needs. Haven’t had any issues running it on all major hardware (Dell, HP, Lenovo, Apple, etc) the UI isn’t as pretty as macOS on Desktop, but it runs Firefox & Chrome, etc. so you can…

Actually that is mostly current HW compat. NetBSD would be I guess the one for legacy HW compat.

Re: OpenBSD 7.9

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Post by rs_rs_rs_rs_rs »

866-RON-0-FEZ wrote: post #36
rs_rs_rs_rs_rs wrote: post #29

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>it’s time everyone considers OpenBSD https://x.com/ortegaalfredo/status/2055362910415671459 When your super secure feature gets defeated by a symlink maybe it's not really time to consider it... Sure, things are not better in the linux world but at least there's more eyes to fix issues there just because of the market share.

Your "evidence" for him to reconsider is a sandbox "bypass" that requires you to be root to set up the environment? For my next trick I will demonstrate how to break into my own house to open the blinds by using my keys. Security researcher theatrics will never not be funny.

>Your "evidence" for him to reconsider is a sandbox "bypass" that requires you to be root to set up the environment

Can you help figure out where does it say unveil does not really work when root is involved?

Re: OpenBSD 7.9

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Post by sjmulder »

clbrmbr wrote: post #10

Anyone here using OpenBSD? If so, for what purpose? I’ve always wanted to use NetBSD for an application for an embedded system / IoT device but never had the pleasure (yet!).

Web/SSH/mail server using the built in httpd, sshd and smtpd. Very happy with it.

And on my laptop, occasionally, to experience it in person.

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