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Re: Click (2016)

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Post by jagged-chisel »

BudaDude wrote: post #12

Nice! It shouted "Bot" when I ran this in the console for (let i = 0; i < 1000; i++) { document.querySelector(".button")?.click(); }

Used this and it replied (in the console): "Such a smart subject."

ETA: It also took a few seconds to get around to telling me (from the bottom up):

    Subject has clicked on the button a thousand times.
    Subject has clicked on the button one hundred times.
    Subject clicks less than most other subjects.
    Subject has run script to click on the button ten times within one second.
    Subject has clicked on the button nine times within one second.
    Subject has clicked on the button eight times within one second.
I wonder if it can distinguish between human clicks and scripted clicks if it's saying "...clicks less than most..." or if everyone is scripting a million clicks.

Re: Click (2016)

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Post by vitally3643 »

singpolyma3 wrote: post #38
jrowen wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think there's a very interesting duality forming around privacy. It seems like most people don't really care if they're being filmed, or if their data is being slurped up six ways from Sunday, as long as it's aggregated and going through automated systems. But as soon as it feels like an actual person is looking at individual behavior, it's creepy (which is, of course, always a possibility, but plausible deniabilit…

Yes. This is it. People are used to "private conversation in public restaurant". It's not private because no one can hear, but because no one is listening.

Right, the very nature of human society for the last several thousand years has been privacy in public. You walk around outside where everyone can see you, but the societal expectation is that you don't watch others. You have conversations in public because that's where life happens, but they're still private conversations.

Every counter-example to this is people being intentionally creepy, inappropriate, or outright malicious. Which was a manageable problem when it was just a single dude being weird, society would eventually exclude and shun them. Trouble is today that we've mechanised malicious inappropriate behavior at scale and ensured we've set up our entire society and government such that the people responsible can never be held accountable in any way. So long as you're being maliciously creepy at scale (and you're wealthy) everything's fine and there's no consequences.

Re: Click (2016)

#43

Post by jagged-chisel »

Sophira wrote: post #37

I'm guessing this is supposed to illustrate how tracking is ubiquitous, given what I see in the source code. In my case, though, after carefully enabling only scripts from the site and the Cloudflare CDN, but not enabling XHR/websockets back to the source page, or any cookies, the only thing that happens for me is: 1. I see a button and an exhortation to click the button. 2. I click the button. 3. The site goes "Subj…

I unlocked at least one "achievement" by blocking camera access.

Re: Click (2016)

#44

Post by dheera »

Sophira wrote: post #31
foxfired wrote: post #14

I've always added analytics scripts on websites I worked on. It was second nature for me. Then when I got my own start up, I didn't just add regular analytics but one that tracks mouse movements so you can watch sessions back like a video [0]. I told a friend about my start up and she jumped on it immediately. I opened the tool and watched her interaction. Then I told her "oh so you opened the dev tools" She immediat…

> Yeah, we include it in our terms and condition and privacy page Please be honest with yourself. People don't read terms and conditions. There's a good chance you don't read terms and conditions. And even if you do, odds are better than even that you don't fully understand all the legal implications. Terms and conditions pages nowadays are there mostly to provide legal protection under the guise of "the user told us…

I'm also of the opinion that at lot of T&C are basically signing under duress and I consider them invalid. Like if I have to sign a T&C with Google Play and a T&C with your city's sanctioned parking app in order to park on the street, I consider both of those T&C's invalid. As a legal resident of the country with a legally owned car and legal driving license, I should be able to park and pay, I shouldn't have to agree to anything else.

Re: Click (2016)

#46

Post by komali2 »

dheera wrote: post #44
Sophira wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Yeah, we include it in our terms and condition and privacy page Please be honest with yourself. People don't read terms and conditions. There's a good chance you don't read terms and conditions. And even if you do, odds are better than even that you don't fully understand all the legal implications. Terms and conditions pages nowadays are there mostly to provide legal protection under the guise of "the user told us…

I'm also of the opinion that at lot of T&C are basically signing under duress and I consider them invalid. Like if I have to sign a T&C with Google Play and a T&C with your city's sanctioned parking app in order to park on the street, I consider both of those T&C's invalid. As a legal resident of the country with a legally owned car and legal driving license, I should be able to park and pay, I shouldn't have to agre…

Your city doesn't have a way to pay for parking with cash on public roads? It's not a private lot? That should simply be illegal.

Re: Click (2016)

#47

Post by dools »

vitally3643 wrote: post #42
singpolyma3 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. This is it. People are used to "private conversation in public restaurant". It's not private because no one can hear, but because no one is listening.

Right, the very nature of human society for the last several thousand years has been privacy in public. You walk around outside where everyone can see you, but the societal expectation is that you don't watch others. You have conversations in public because that's where life happens, but they're still private conversations. Every counter-example to this is people being intentionally creepy, inappropriate, or outright…

I think creepiness manifests when the observation is one way. Without technology that’s kind of hard. With tech it becomes increasingly easy for everyday people to one-way spy on each other

Re: Click (2016)

#48

Post by nomel »

rolph wrote: post #9
hspeiser wrote: post #4

thats pretty creepy. I find it unnerving that they know exactly where my cursor is.

would be creepiest if your cursor moved somewhere related to what you were saying outloud. the capability is there, your local hardware determines how seamless it would be.

I made something related to this with whisper. It would just constantly listen and periodically do a search to find a picture/video/gif from the web, relevant to what you're talking about, and show it.

Re: Click (2016)

#49

Post by somewhatgoated »

dheera wrote: post #44
Sophira wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Yeah, we include it in our terms and condition and privacy page Please be honest with yourself. People don't read terms and conditions. There's a good chance you don't read terms and conditions. And even if you do, odds are better than even that you don't fully understand all the legal implications. Terms and conditions pages nowadays are there mostly to provide legal protection under the guise of "the user told us…

I'm also of the opinion that at lot of T&C are basically signing under duress and I consider them invalid. Like if I have to sign a T&C with Google Play and a T&C with your city's sanctioned parking app in order to park on the street, I consider both of those T&C's invalid. As a legal resident of the country with a legally owned car and legal driving license, I should be able to park and pay, I shouldn't have to agre…

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