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Garry Tan, the CEO of YC, accused me of unethical reporting

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Re: Garry Tan, the CEO of YC, accused me of unethical reporting

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Post by runjake »

SwellJoe wrote: post #11

I've come to be convinced that having a huge amount of money causes some kind of mental breakage, a need to control other people that is unhealthy for everyone it touches. I don't mind everyone having or expressing an opinion, even opinions I disagree with, but when someone uses their disproportionate wealth and influence to spread misinformation and disrupt and dismantle democratic systems it crosses a line. It take…

Perhaps it's more accurate to say that people are used to getting what they want. When they don't, it violates their hedonic adaptation and provokes a negative reaction.

Mixing wealth into this situation increases the blast radius and makes it more public.

Re: Garry Tan, the CEO of YC, accused me of unethical reporting

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Post by tptacek »

rafram wrote: post #34
tptacek wrote: post #27

The Chesa Boudin DA "misrepresentations" document, linked towards the end of this story, is weak, bordering on Trumpian. It highlights as "misrepresentations" cases where Boudin simply disagrees with Lim about a statement of opinion (whether his office was suitable forthcoming, organized, or deflecting). At one point it accuses Lim of "violating HIPAA", which is not a thing† (HIPAA constrains covered entities, not re…

The main HIPAA claim seems to be that the victim didn’t provide (or consent to the publication of) that X-ray, and neither did their only family member known to possess it. I don’t know who released it, but if it was someone in the medical office, that is a genuine HIPAA violation.

It could be a violation at the medical office, but Lim isn't a covered entity, and the document accuses her directly.

Re: Garry Tan, the CEO of YC, accused me of unethical reporting

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Post by rationalist »

vrganj wrote: post #39
loeg wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't great reporting. It's politics.

Everything is politics. Which food you eat (are you vegan? carnivore diet? Both have implications in regards to animal welfare, climate change, soil use, identity etc etc), which media you consume (obvious), which job you have (which power structures do you strengthen with it? who benefits from your labor? who do you try to disrupt?). To say one is "apolitical" is just voicing a preference for the status quo. To decr…

Maybe I just want to eat what tastes good, and not have to worry about how what I chose on the menu is going to support a politician, political party, businessperson, etc.

The "everything is politics" meme is old and annoying.

Re: Garry Tan, the CEO of YC, accused me of unethical reporting

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Post by vrganj »

rationalist wrote: post #43
vrganj wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything is politics. Which food you eat (are you vegan? carnivore diet? Both have implications in regards to animal welfare, climate change, soil use, identity etc etc), which media you consume (obvious), which job you have (which power structures do you strengthen with it? who benefits from your labor? who do you try to disrupt?). To say one is "apolitical" is just voicing a preference for the status quo. To decr…

Maybe I just want to eat what tastes good, and not have to worry about how what I chose on the menu is going to support a politician, political party, businessperson, etc. The "everything is politics" meme is old and annoying.

Sure, you can. But don't pretend that's not a political choice.

Re: Garry Tan, the CEO of YC, accused me of unethical reporting

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Post by samtp »

rationalist wrote: post #43
vrganj wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything is politics. Which food you eat (are you vegan? carnivore diet? Both have implications in regards to animal welfare, climate change, soil use, identity etc etc), which media you consume (obvious), which job you have (which power structures do you strengthen with it? who benefits from your labor? who do you try to disrupt?). To say one is "apolitical" is just voicing a preference for the status quo. To decr…

Maybe I just want to eat what tastes good, and not have to worry about how what I chose on the menu is going to support a politician, political party, businessperson, etc. The "everything is politics" meme is old and annoying.

Just because you choose to ignore the externalities of your choices doesn't mean they no longer exist. It just means that you value your personal well being and comfort more than being informed about the results of your actions.

Re: Garry Tan, the CEO of YC, accused me of unethical reporting

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Post by energy123 »

vrganj wrote: post #39
loeg wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't great reporting. It's politics.

Everything is politics. Which food you eat (are you vegan? carnivore diet? Both have implications in regards to animal welfare, climate change, soil use, identity etc etc), which media you consume (obvious), which job you have (which power structures do you strengthen with it? who benefits from your labor? who do you try to disrupt?). To say one is "apolitical" is just voicing a preference for the status quo. To decr…

That's a pretty depressing worldview. Children playing in the park aren't being political. It's possible to just exist sometimes.

Re: Garry Tan, the CEO of YC, accused me of unethical reporting

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Post by nickburns »

tptacek wrote: post #27

The Chesa Boudin DA "misrepresentations" document, linked towards the end of this story, is weak, bordering on Trumpian. It highlights as "misrepresentations" cases where Boudin simply disagrees with Lim about a statement of opinion (whether his office was suitable forthcoming, organized, or deflecting). At one point it accuses Lim of "violating HIPAA", which is not a thing† (HIPAA constrains covered entities, not re…

Can you elaborate on "basic competency issues", either in the case of Boudin's office and/or other high profile reformist prosecutors? Is that just a polite way of calling them dumb, à la what the kids are calling a 'skill issue' nowadays?

Re: Garry Tan, the CEO of YC, accused me of unethical reporting

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Post by Sharlin »

Snow_Falls wrote: post #18
SwellJoe wrote: post #11

I've come to be convinced that having a huge amount of money causes some kind of mental breakage, a need to control other people that is unhealthy for everyone it touches. I don't mind everyone having or expressing an opinion, even opinions I disagree with, but when someone uses their disproportionate wealth and influence to spread misinformation and disrupt and dismantle democratic systems it crosses a line. It take…

I would agree with you, I see people like Jeff Bezos who's unfathomably wealthy but also treats his workers so terribly that they have to pee in bottles and I wonder why? What compels someone to so obssesively seek wealth that they must treat people like that. I can only see it as some sort of mental illness. When someone compulsively hoards trinkets to the detriment of all around them, we call that a disease and I d…

To get to where Jeff Bezos is, it's almost mandatory to have sociopathic traits and to be genuinely incapable of regarding other people as anything but means to an end. It's a simple selection effect.

Re: Garry Tan, the CEO of YC, accused me of unethical reporting

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Post by tptacek »

dijksterhuis wrote: post #40
tptacek wrote: post #27

The Chesa Boudin DA "misrepresentations" document, linked towards the end of this story, is weak, bordering on Trumpian. It highlights as "misrepresentations" cases where Boudin simply disagrees with Lim about a statement of opinion (whether his office was suitable forthcoming, organized, or deflecting). At one point it accuses Lim of "violating HIPAA", which is not a thing† (HIPAA constrains covered entities, not re…

> The Chesa Boudin DA "misrepresentations" document, linked towards the end of this story, is weak, bordering on Trumpian. Are we reading the same document? The first example is almost a perfect example of what's stated in TFA. Lim is incredibly aggressive in making her argument, and not an argument based on real evidence . Scanning through the rest, it reads as much the same. Direct gdrive link for those who don't w…

That's an extremely charitable read of a DA's office alleging lawbreaking. I really think you have to kind of slant your head and squint to come away with the impression that that section isn't about Lim, but rather the unnamed medical office.

Re: Garry Tan, the CEO of YC, accused me of unethical reporting

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Post by maxlamb »

energy123 wrote: post #46
vrganj wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything is politics. Which food you eat (are you vegan? carnivore diet? Both have implications in regards to animal welfare, climate change, soil use, identity etc etc), which media you consume (obvious), which job you have (which power structures do you strengthen with it? who benefits from your labor? who do you try to disrupt?). To say one is "apolitical" is just voicing a preference for the status quo. To decr…

That's a pretty depressing worldview. Children playing in the park aren't being political. It's possible to just exist sometimes.

But that park was probably created as a result of a vote or other political process.
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