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Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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People are not upset because "Level 1" was taken away from them. For artists and creatives, _all levels_ have been taken away. And for most, their very basic needs (i.e. income) are being taken away. And all that, just so we can get past "level 1"? Not even "level 4"? What kind of trade off is that?? We're supposed to be engineers. We spend days/weeks discussing how a table should be designed so it doesn't bite us in…

learn to ~~code~~ weld.

Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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I created Hosaka Studio using Claude Code. I wouldn't call it vibecoded however! I'm already a professional software dev and it was three months very hard work getting it to work properly across half a dozen different Linux distros, X11 and Wayland compositors (there's still a known issue on Nvidia+Cosmos).

So yeah, it's coherent, complex and non-trivial but also absolutely not accessible to anyone who can prompt.

Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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Made me recall that meme about the frequency of miracles over history, saying that it plummeted with the invention of the camera, regained its momentum with Photoshop, and now they added a twist saying that miracles skyrocketed with the popularization of AI

Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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If Photoshop can be vibe coded in a couple of weeks, that's superintelligence. I think of "tokens" as units of intelligence spent on a problem. Producing software like Photoshop, Linux, or Excel literally cost billions of tokens (human intelligence back then, and now both human and artificial intelligence combined). A lot of deep intellectual problems were solved along the way, and the token cost of solving them accu…

No it's not. The point is that if building software is indeed way cheaper now, then someone should be able to guide AI to build Photoshop, Linux, or Excel while providing direction, but having the billions of tokens of human intelligence now provided by AI.

This is not happening.

Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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If Photoshop can be vibe coded in a couple of weeks, that's superintelligence. I think of "tokens" as units of intelligence spent on a problem. Producing software like Photoshop, Linux, or Excel literally cost billions of tokens (human intelligence back then, and now both human and artificial intelligence combined). A lot of deep intellectual problems were solved along the way, and the token cost of solving them accu…

Just to be clear, I spent Billions of tokens last month, dick'ing around with AI, do I think it can do my job, sure if I was as checked out as I am feeling being mandated to only use AI for work...

Trust me this version of me can't write code better than an LLM. I think even the LLMs from 2 years ago could do as much.

Only thing we have solved with LLMs is how to generate code, as in literally converting what you type in as text into something somewhat working. Fixing the details is impossible for AI.

Today and beyond.

Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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There are plenty of vibe-coded apps out there, I am sure. Mom and pop store fronts, "wellness trackers", todo managers - trivia of that sort.

LLMs make easy problems easier, but they do not make hard problems so.

For me, AI greatly reduces the TOIL - tooling, scripts, refactoring runs, and that's great. It does not, however, excuse you from knowing how to build solid, maintainable software past your little vibe sandbox.

Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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post #43

One of the bottlenecks right now is testing. The LLMs suck at testing still, so the feedback cycle still requires human input

That's because testing is a layer above, and that requires effort from people, and people don't want to put in the effort or lack the skills to properly test with them. I think LLMs are superb at testing, but I have a lot of machinery in front of them to enable it
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