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BambuStudio has been violating PrusaSlicer AGPL license since their fork

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Re: BambuStudio has been violating PrusaSlicer AGPL license since their fork

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Post by eqvinox »

liamgm wrote: post #26
sbrocket wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This sounds like pro-Bambu wishful thinking rather than an informed opinion. On what basis do you believe proprietary plugins or libraries are allowed under any conditions by the AGPLv3? And if you want to counter that you didn't say "under any conditions", I agree, but that means we need to discuss the particulars of this case to decide whether it's allowed or not. Bambu took existing open-source, AGPL slicer softwa…

Nah you cannot force proprietary library that consumed by fork of viral licenced app to changed it license. For example of this case is Apple Game Porting Toolkit which is fork of Crossover version of Wine GPL , Apple modified the code add dependency to their own implementation of DirectX's D3DMetal which is proprietary licensed library. So GPTK is composed with mixed GPL Wine app + propietary D3DMetal.

This can apply as long as the library has no references or dependencies on the application.

The illegality of Bambu Labs' actions results from the dependencies of the binary module on the AGPL app, not the other way around.

Re: BambuStudio has been violating PrusaSlicer AGPL license since their fork

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Post by aleph_minus_one »

walletdrainer wrote: post #40
aleph_minus_one wrote: post #38

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> Based on his tweets, Josef seems like a guy incapable of coming up with his own original thoughts. Rather: Josef Průša is not a native English speaker (his mother tongue is Czech). I observe this for myself: a lot of my original thoughts are hard to translate into English because they are deeply intertwined with how the German language is built. From my observation in particular native German speakers are prone to…

> Rather: Josef Průša is not a native English speaker (his mother tongue is Czech). Are you joking? Guy has been tweeting in English for almost two decades, that’s not the problem. Here's the frequency of the " - " pattern in tweets by "josefprusa" 2020: 8 / 761 tweets = 1.1% 2021: 5 / 533 tweets = 0.9% 2022: 9 / 597 tweets = 1.5% 2023: 21 / 450 tweets = 4.7% 2024: 57 / 725 tweets = 7.9% 2025: 23 / 390 tweets = 5.9%…

> Are you joking? Guy has been tweeting in English for almost two decades, that’s not the problem.

I think you deeply underestimate how deep your thinking can be convoluted with your native language that you grew up with:

I very often have discussions with native speakers of other languages about how I can translate some specific German phrases/thoughts into their mother tongue. They often have to admit that their native language simply has no "pattern" for this, or that the phrase is based on cultural assumptions that do hold in Germany, but not in the country where the language that I want to translate my phrase to is commonly spoken.

> Here's the frequency of the " - " pattern in tweets by "josefprusa"

What do you want to tell with this?

Re: BambuStudio has been violating PrusaSlicer AGPL license since their fork

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Post by krageon »

aleph_minus_one wrote: post #42
walletdrainer wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Rather: Josef Průša is not a native English speaker (his mother tongue is Czech). Are you joking? Guy has been tweeting in English for almost two decades, that’s not the problem. Here's the frequency of the " - " pattern in tweets by "josefprusa" 2020: 8 / 761 tweets = 1.1% 2021: 5 / 533 tweets = 0.9% 2022: 9 / 597 tweets = 1.5% 2023: 21 / 450 tweets = 4.7% 2024: 57 / 725 tweets = 7.9% 2025: 23 / 390 tweets = 5.9%…

> Are you joking? Guy has been tweeting in English for almost two decades, that’s not the problem. I think you deeply underestimate how deep your thinking can be convoluted with your native language that you grew up with: I very often have discussions with native speakers of other languages about how I can translate some specific German phrases/thoughts into their mother tongue. They often have to admit that their na…

> What do you want to tell with this?

It's a common llm-ism. It makes clear this person is capable of speaking english without chatgpt and makes a case that the chatgpt voice patterns are in fact as claimed by GP evidence of a lack of original thought.

Re: BambuStudio has been violating PrusaSlicer AGPL license since their fork

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Post by walletdrainer »

krageon wrote: post #43
aleph_minus_one wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Are you joking? Guy has been tweeting in English for almost two decades, that’s not the problem. I think you deeply underestimate how deep your thinking can be convoluted with your native language that you grew up with: I very often have discussions with native speakers of other languages about how I can translate some specific German phrases/thoughts into their mother tongue. They often have to admit that their na…

> What do you want to tell with this? It's a common llm-ism. It makes clear this person is capable of speaking english without chatgpt and makes a case that the chatgpt voice patterns are in fact as claimed by GP evidence of a lack of original thought.

Also, you just don’t get LLM-isms at this rate if you’re simply using them for translation. (From the common commercially available products)
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