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WHO declares Ebola outbreak a global health emergency

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Re: WHO declares Ebola outbreak a global health emergency

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post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In this case I'd guess the DOGE cuts to foreign aid are a massive, massive contributor to the problem. A lot of third-world countries heavily relied on USAID et al to keep basic sanitation and healthcare going.

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theres also one about pennywise, pound foolish

Re: WHO declares Ebola outbreak a global health emergency

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post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In this case I'd guess the DOGE cuts to foreign aid are a massive, massive contributor to the problem. A lot of third-world countries heavily relied on USAID et al to keep basic sanitation and healthcare going.

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> how about countries with these risks take action to reduce these risks

With what money? There's a reason they're dependent on USAID.

> I'm sure there's a parable about teaching someone to fish rather than feeding them

Unfortunately the priorities of USAID (and European foreign aid as well) aren't exactly aligned with that paradigm. It's the worst expressed in agriculture because we just dumped our excess production on Africa to keep our prices stable, but foreign aid being sustainable is a relatively new and not really widespread requirement.

Re: WHO declares Ebola outbreak a global health emergency

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The headline from the WHO reads: Ebola outbreak in the Democratic Republic of the Congo declared a Public Health Emergency of International Concern https://www.who.int/news/item/17-07-2019-ebola-outbreak-in-t...

Your linked article is dated at > 17 July 2019 (people never seem to look for/check dates any more)

Its even in the pasted url!

Re: WHO declares Ebola outbreak a global health emergency

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post #8

First hantavirus now this. Look, there's valid reason to be concerned here but people who are fearing a repeat of the Covid-19 pandemic are seemingly missing why Covid was a pandemic. Covid spread so much for four main reasons: 1. It could spread airborne; 2. It spread relatively easily. Not quite measles-level of contagiousness but still, pretty good; 3. Unlike something like the flu, there really wasn't any kind of…

forgot 5. Covid was exactly the right amount of deadly, 0.5-1% which made it easy to "roll the dice" on making containment harder.

It was good practice for pandemic response. I think (blasphemy, which on its own is wild) the global reaction was too strong on an acute level, but was worth it as prepararion for a deadlier pandemic.

Re: WHO declares Ebola outbreak a global health emergency

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post #21

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Yea, I recently caught flu from someone else that "could not miss their work". So these things don't really apply well to the US at all.

Yep. This is called "food service". Shit pay, no benefits, and managers who threaten to fire you if you dont show up. Sick? Puke in the bathroom. Whys this the case? Cause we Americans have garbage for labor laws. You can be fired for pretty much any reason. And you are NOT protected if youre sick. When I had to work food seevice, at starbucks, subway, random pizza chain, etc, I begrudgingly came in sick, infected LO…

>Cause we Americans have garbage for labor laws

And healthcare being tied to "having a good enough job".

But yea, it's a huge mess.

Re: WHO declares Ebola outbreak a global health emergency

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This is the WHO announcement: https://www.who.int/news/item/17-05-2026-epidemic-of-ebola-d...

This is our CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/ebola/situation-summary/index.html

And yes, this is a big deal. Public health emergencies of international concern are a short list consisting of, in their entirety: swine flu ('09 to '10), polio ('14 on), ebola ('13 to '16), Zika ('16), ebola ('19 to '20), Covid ('20 to '23), monkeypox ('22 to '25) and now this [1]. It's one step down from a pandemic emergency (which, to be clear, has not been declared).

(Helpful explainer: https://www.who.int/emergencies/disease-outbreak-news/item/2....)

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_health_emergency_of_int...

Re: WHO declares Ebola outbreak a global health emergency

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post #15
post #8

First hantavirus now this. Look, there's valid reason to be concerned here but people who are fearing a repeat of the Covid-19 pandemic are seemingly missing why Covid was a pandemic. Covid spread so much for four main reasons: 1. It could spread airborne; 2. It spread relatively easily. Not quite measles-level of contagiousness but still, pretty good; 3. Unlike something like the flu, there really wasn't any kind of…

> People with the flu tend to self-isolate showing symptoms. Do you have any other fantasy tales you’d like to tell?

The world is bigger than the US. Also, not everybody in the US is an underpaid service worker with no benefits. Also, if you limit yourself to just the US, you're still just wrong [1]:

> Approximately one-quarter (26%, n = 303/1169) of adults (aged 16–64 years) with self-reported ILI took time off work for their illness for a mean of 3.3 days, compared with 31% (n = 31/99) and 20% (n = 3/15) of those with confirmed influenza A or B, respectively, who reported missing a mean of 3.8 and 3.0 days.

[1]: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9748403/

Re: WHO declares Ebola outbreak a global health emergency

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post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In this case I'd guess the DOGE cuts to foreign aid are a massive, massive contributor to the problem. A lot of third-world countries heavily relied on USAID et al to keep basic sanitation and healthcare going.

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If them not fishing means your people are at risk, you go and teach them to fish.

Re: WHO declares Ebola outbreak a global health emergency

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I read elsewhere that this strain is less deadly than previous strains. I'm no epidemiologist but being less deadly could allow it to spread further, which is obviously concerning. Also, the article says surveillance picked up the spread late. I wonder if the US's pulling back from the WHO and other international functions had anything to do with this, it used to make up a big chunk of its resources and staff.

> read elsewhere that this strain is less deadly than previous strains

"Case fatality rates in the past two [Bundibugyo virus disease] outbreaks, reported in Uganda and in DRC in 2007 and 2012, have ranged from approximately 30% to 50%" [1]. Given "as of 15 May, a total of 246 suspected cases and 80 deaths" were reported, the current disease's 33% fatality rate is in the historic range.

[1] https://www.who.int/emergencies/disease-outbreak-news/item/2...

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