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> The nature of the community here is a self-correcting mechanism. It looks like the community has deployed its self-correcting mechanism in this case.
That isn't what I meant, but I know that's the only way it can be interpreted. The culture here is so deeply self-sabotaging because it's so deeply afraid to be human. It really gets depressing sometimes. Good day.
As a German, I started wondering if every nation has to experience a fascist catastrophe on its own, before a majority agrees that a fascist takeover is possible at home (surely the peoples who failed to stop all the other fascist regimes were just dumb). Then again, 30% of German voters would vote for the fascist AfD party today, so there's that... I agree with the premise of the article wholeheartedly. Minor nitpic…
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That isn't what I meant, but I know that's the only way it can be interpreted. The culture here is so deeply self-sabotaging because it's so deeply afraid to be human. It really gets depressing sometimes. Good day.
Politics junkies are the least human people around.
That's actually kind of important to the tech community, considering we are wildly complicit in this.
So, maybe consider that more than "politics junkies" might be interested in this, and that the tech billionaires might have a vested interest in making sure stories like this get flagged (very easily done).
It's funny how much democracies with free speech are always self critical with rampant doom saying while actual autocracies that crack down on this kind of speech are quiet and content when economic times are good only really cracking at the seams during distress. I know its a healthy part of democracy but it is very draining.
... You know we have people getting thrown in camps and deported for saying maybe genocide is bad, right? And like, students and faculty in Ivy league schools getting beaten and/or fired for saying maybe we shouldn't be complicit in the mass murder of children?
Apologies if I've misread your remarks - deep and biting sarcasm doesn't always play well in text.
It's funny how much democracies with free speech are always self critical with rampant doom saying while actual autocracies that crack down on this kind of speech are quiet and content when economic times are good only really cracking at the seams during distress. I know its a healthy part of democracy but it is very draining.
Just to be clear: Are you twisting the fact that America hits every metric for fascism into saying it must therefore be a healthy vibrant democracy full of free speech - because someone pointed that out? In a flagged story, that isn't anywhere near mainstream news? ... You know we have people getting thrown in camps and deported for saying maybe genocide is bad, right? And like, students and faculty in Ivy league sch…
Did you know Germany has really fascist laws on regarding displaying Nazi symbols even more than the US? You can get deported for it!
In China you can disappear talking about Taiwan, In the UAE you can by saying something anti Islam. There is a long way to go until you reach real bad places...
You obviously do not like the USA, but just because you do not like it does not mean its fascist... its just clearly not perfect and free enough for you to be able to point it out.
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The midterms will be a landslide if allowed to run fairly. Trump’s response to that landslide will tell us whether there’s hope. I don’t expect Civil War levels of violence because the country is mostly united in its hatred of how the GOP is running it. No large group of people will pick up arms to support Trump’s right to invade countries and ruin the economy.
> The midterms will be a landslide if allowed to run fairly. SCOTUS just repelled the "voting rights" part of the civil rights acts, allowing states to gerrymander the black vote out. Which all red states immediately did. The midterms already won't be fair, and it can get worse until then. > the country is mostly united in its hatred of how the GOP is running it. It really isn't, 30% of the country is still diehard M…
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Yes. Trump
> centralized autocracy
Totally. Wars without congress permission, illegal tariffs, etc
> forcible suppression of opposition
Yes. Rigging elections. Making difficult for oppositors to vote
> belief in a natural social hierarchy
Totally. White supremacism. Proud boys, ICE...
> subordination of individual interests for the perceived interest of the nation or race
Yes. ICE.
> strong regimentation of society and the economy
Yes. DOGE shit. Cuts to healthcare programs, etc.
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Politics junkies are the least human people around.
America does have basically every characteristic of fascism on every important list of fascism characteristics ever made. That's actually kind of important to the tech community, considering we are wildly complicit in this . So, maybe consider that more than "politics junkies" might be interested in this, and that the tech billionaires might have a vested interest in making sure stories like this get flagged (very ea…
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Just to be clear: Are you twisting the fact that America hits every metric for fascism into saying it must therefore be a healthy vibrant democracy full of free speech - because someone pointed that out? In a flagged story, that isn't anywhere near mainstream news? ... You know we have people getting thrown in camps and deported for saying maybe genocide is bad, right? And like, students and faculty in Ivy league sch…
No, I'm actually saying that while the US is getting worse, it is in fact not fascist. You obviously disagree, and the fact that you do proves the point that it can get a lot worse. Did you know Germany has really fascist laws on regarding displaying Nazi symbols even more than the US? You can get deported for it! In China you can disappear talking about Taiwan, In the UAE you can by saying something anti Islam. Ther…
Are people being thrown in camps for what they say? Are they being gunned down in broad daylight in the street for peaceful protest? ... If so, maybe my disagreement is backed up by facts. And maybe "it can get worse" isn't pulling much weight here.
Right now we have a ~100% pro genocide party, and a roughly 90% pro genocide party. That's... not a good sign bro.
> Did you know Germany has really fascist laws on regarding displaying Nazi symbols even more than the US? You can get deported for it!
Did you know every day there's a new video of German police brutalizing peaceful protesters? Or that they're a major arms supplier to Israel; second only to the US?
> In China you can disappear talking about Taiwan
Citation needed. Let's compare people disappearing per capita too. Let's talk about the Epstein files, lots of people disappearing there.
> In the UAE you can by saying something anti Islam.
If your argument is that we're not the UAE, then buddy... What?
> There is a long way to go until you reach real bad places...
Oh America can fall very far from where it is, for sure. That's not what we're talking about though.
> You obviously do not like the USA
It's not about me, or my likes (freedom, truth, liberty, equality - the things the US says it's all about) and dislikes (genocide, forever wars, deportations, coups, extortion, blackmail, people getting shot in the back in the street - the things the US is actually doing).
This conversation is about fascism, and how the US is ticking every single box for it. You are claiming the US isn't fascist, as if that were just my opinion; but you're not engaging with any of the actual facts in the article, or any particular points about fascism, just claiming that people are free to critisize therefore we can't possiblybe fascist. Which is manifestly untrue from any number of angles.
If you like, we can also discuss how this community, the tech bros and venture capitalists, the DOGE cheerleaders and the Thielites, are deeply complicit in that fascism, and profiting from it.
> its just clearly not perfect and free enough for you to be able to point it out.
"Sure, we arm and enable genocide, but you're free to point that out as long as you don't mind the possibility of being thrown in a camp, shot, treated as a terrorist, deported, etc - because we're not the UAE"... I'm not sure those arguments are as strong as you seem to think they are.