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Re: Anyone on the Internet Can Ring Your Doorbell

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Post by mulderc »

consp wrote: post #35
ildon wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a security concern as well. I'd argue even worse than the internet connected ones. Anyone at your front door (or where the button is) can easily know if you're at home, and take advantage if you're not. With the internet connected ones, you can always pretend.

There are way more indicators than just a doorbell. Closed curtains, car not in driveway, lights out ...

Well my curtains and light open and close on a schedule so they won’t tell them much. Also who can afford to drive to work anymore?

Re: Anyone on the Internet Can Ring Your Doorbell

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Post by Wilder7977 »

ildon wrote: post #34
NetMageSCW wrote: post #8

That would be impressive as my doorbell is hardwired from a button to a transformer and bell in a closet.

This is a security concern as well. I'd argue even worse than the internet connected ones. Anyone at your front door (or where the button is) can easily know if you're at home, and take advantage if you're not. With the internet connected ones, you can always pretend.

Anyone physically near your house can just see you leaving the house and know you are not at home, besides all the other signs.

There is no control against this, and it shouldn't be something you rely on to prevent break-ins or burglaries (if you were thinking of such threats).

Re: Anyone on the Internet Can Ring Your Doorbell

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Post by hnlmorg »

mulderc wrote: post #40
hnlmorg wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t think anyone is fooled into thinking people are home when the home owner “answers the door” via their internet connected doorbell. If anything, I’d say that’s a bigger give away than someone not answering a traditional door bell given people used to not hear them even when home, all the time (particularly in bigger houses).

I would have thought this but was amazed at the number of times people would think I was home while talking to them via my doorbell. I have neighbor that told people I was rude to not come to the door and didn’t know I was talking to her from work.

How long ago was that? Was this when smart doorbells were brand new tech?

I could understand peoples misconception back when such door bells weren’t known about so the default assumption people might have is that it was an intercom.

Re: Anyone on the Internet Can Ring Your Doorbell

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Post by themafia »

stackghost wrote: post #3

I'd be shocked if the Ring doorbells were materially more secure. I sit firmly in the "only smart device is my printer and I keep a loaded gun next to it in case it makes a weird noise" camp.

The Battlestar Galactica rule. I find comfort in it as well.

Re: Anyone on the Internet Can Ring Your Doorbell

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Post by themafia »

stackghost wrote: post #16
aidenn0 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Nowadays smartphones do credible document scanning for most consumer use cases. iPhones had this built in before COVID at the latest. Now do 40 pages, front-and-back, with your smartphone.

That's not "most consumer use cases". I have not once in my entire life had to scan 40 pages at once. I bet I've never done more than 15 at once. For the once in a blue moon that I need to scan 40 double-sided pages I'd just go to my local print shop.

You might if it were drastically more convenient. I seem to have somehow acquired nearly 1 imperial pound of documentation for every year I've been alive. That's just estimating based upon the weight of my panda file box next to my desk.

There's a lot in there, rental contracts, policy documents, w2 forms, that I might actually benefit from having scanned and digitally available on my computer. I feel that being able to search through these documents would have saved me some amount of trouble over the years.

Hell, if it were easy enough, I might actually scan all those receipts I bring home and then throw away.

Re: Anyone on the Internet Can Ring Your Doorbell

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Post by mulderc »

hnlmorg wrote: post #43
mulderc wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would have thought this but was amazed at the number of times people would think I was home while talking to them via my doorbell. I have neighbor that told people I was rude to not come to the door and didn’t know I was talking to her from work.

How long ago was that? Was this when smart doorbells were brand new tech? I could understand peoples misconception back when such door bells weren’t known about so the default assumption people might have is that it was an intercom.

The neighbor was 2022 or so but even more recent people have seemed a bit confused. I think having a car in the driveway makes people think we are home.

Re: Anyone on the Internet Can Ring Your Doorbell

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Post by ErroneousBosh »

NetMageSCW wrote: post #8

That would be impressive as my doorbell is hardwired from a button to a transformer and bell in a closet.

Mine too. Not only that, the breaker for the transformer is switched off because the postman used to come right as my then-2-year-old was going for his nap. He's nearly 6 now and has not had an afternoon nap for a long time, and at some point I'll flip the breaker back on when I'm getting my jacket out of the hall cupboard.

But I didn't do that yesterday, I don't think I'll do it today, and it's not looking good for tomorrow either.

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