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The Zulip Foundation

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Re: The Zulip Foundation

#41

Gotta love the frontier labs annihilating open source projects left and right either by acquiring them directly or stealing the teams.

Zulip is a critical piece of software for my business: It's the main tool my company has used to communicate for more than 13 years, and it's the primary forum used by our 3,000+ person alumni community. Our Zulip realm has over 4M messages.

I share this because I hope it makes it clear that I have a vested interest in Zulip's future. And I'm happy about this news; I'm confident Zulip will continue to improve for many years.

Also, for those who don't know: Zulip was initially a for-profit startup, which was acquired by Dropbox in 2014. Tim then went to great lengths to get Dropbox to later open source it, and allow him to found a new company (the one that was today donated to the new nonprofit foundation) to continue work on Zulip. I can't think of any other cases where a founder has gone to such great lengths to do right by their users.

Re: The Zulip Foundation

#42

> I’m stepping back from full-time Zulip leadership to join Anthropic, alongside three senior team members, and we’re donating the company to a newly created, independent, nonprofit Zulip Foundation Not trying to be cynical … but announcing on a Friday afternoon is typically the operating mode for when you need to announce something that you do not want to get noticed. I can only speculate this weeks Bun/Rust news mi…

I mean, all customers got a mid-long email, this does not sound like anyone buries anything.

Re: The Zulip Foundation

#43
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They are doing work, they're advocating for what they believe in. Consumers of FOSS deserve to have a voice too.

If you see complaining on forums and maintaining software as contributing the same kind of value, then oh boy do I have an enterprise-grade comment thread to sell you.

We'll have an LLM process the complains as proof of complaint and use that as the basis for our new cryptocurrency called CurmudgeonCoin and have an ICO. We'll make atto dollars!

Re: The Zulip Foundation

#44
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How dare OSS devs get paid.

It’s not really “OSS devs getting paid” if they stop being OSS developers to get paid

Given that we don't know what Tim will be working on at Anthropic, given his history of commitment to open source, it seems a bit early to say he's stopped being an OSS developer just because he's changed jobs. Anthropic has done a lot for open source, specifically giving Mozilla access to Mythos to patch Firefox before they release it to the world.

Re: The Zulip Foundation

#45

I've only used Zulip when checking out the Lean Zulip a few years ago, and I thought it was an infinitely better interface than Discord for serious discussion, and also much easier for lurkers to find information. I wish more projects adopted it.

I just gave Zulip a try with a team of 3. I loved the UI because I spent years in pain finding things in big Slack and Mattermost installations (big = 30 users, nowhere near enterprise-level). For my two junior colleagues, instead, Zulip was too complicated. We evventually switched over to Discord.

I highly recommend Zulip to anybody who faces the problem that the concept of threads and channels is not a good fit to their mental model of tasks and groups in teams.

Re: The Zulip Foundation

#46
Wait, don't they know that the best way for your newly corporate orphaned quasi-source project to flourish is to donate it to the Apache Software Foundation?

Re: The Zulip Foundation

#47
> It’s hard these days to feel confident that a company whose product you love won’t yield to commercial pressure and start selling your data, putting in ads, or otherwise violating your trust. It’s been a challenge to convincingly make the case that this won’t happen to Zulip, especially to folks who might not have time to investigate deeply. The Zulip Foundation, which has the goal of serving the public good, makes this so much easier to communicate clearly.

As a huge fan of Zulip the app and the team behind it, I have intensely mixed feelings about the AI-ness of it all. But this does seem to be the most responsible way forward.

Zulip needed to be able to outlast its founders to be a truly sustainable project. The way they've focused on building up their contribution pipeline, the effort they spend on mentoring new developers, it has all built towards that being possible.

https://blog.zulip.com/2021/12/17/why-zulip-will-stand-the-t...

It seems like just yesterday that the core team started experimenting with using Claude to work on Zulip, which maybe adds to the surprise of this announcement. But I don't begrudge those individuals their choices. Ten+ years is a long time to work on any project.

https://blog.zulip.com/2025/11/24/zulip-ten-years/

Here's to the Zulip project continuing to maintain its engineering excellence and its community principles for the next ten years.

Re: The Zulip Foundation

#49
Reads like Anthropic has recognized that in order to better get into enterprise it needs to be better than Slack - meet users where they are most of the time. Having someone experienced with a good reputation and a say on how to steer a product sounds quite beneficial.

Re: The Zulip Foundation

#50

Reads like Anthropic has recognized that in order to better get into enterprise it needs to be better than Slack - meet users where they are most of the time. Having someone experienced with a good reputation and a say on how to steer a product sounds quite beneficial.

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