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Re: Mullvad exit IPs are surprisingly identifying

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VPNs are snake oil. Exit IPs are a public information.

Mullvad is a tiny world-famous ISP in Sweden that has zero KYC and explicit zero-log policy, specifically designed that way to enable mild abuses, that also accept PayPal, credit cards, and today I learned, cash in an anonymous envelope for payments. That doesn't scream US three-letter organization at all.

Re: Mullvad exit IPs are surprisingly identifying

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Your ISP farms and sells your data too. Most VPNs are untrustworthy, but unlike ISPs, you can choose from any VPN provider in the world, not just the two or three that are local to you. And there are VPN providers in the world that have been proven not to retain data by audits + actual court cases where the court determined that the VPN provider did not have the data authorities were seeking. Do your research and cho…

Deutsche Telekom in Germany/EU farms and sells my data? Any sources?

You probably won't find direct proof any more than you will find direct proof of any random VPN selling your data, it's just a given that commercial entities are liable to sell financially valuable data, and a list of all traffic, every website you visit and every service you use, tied to a specific identity is certainly financially valuable. Being in the EU doesn't change this; in fact the EU explicitly required that ISPs retain your identifying data with the Data Retention Directive, and though this was struck down after 8 years in court, many individual national governments immediately moved to impose similar requirements. I don't know if Germany was one of them but unless Germany has a specific privacy directive that goes beyond EU law I would see zero reason to place any trust in an ISP. In fact even if there was a law that's still not a reason to trust an ISP, because privacy laws are violated constantly; the most trustworthy source by far is a party acting opposite to the government, who has been investigated by the government and proven not to log the data that the government wants.

Re: Mullvad exit IPs are surprisingly identifying

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VPNs are snake oil. Exit IPs are a public information.

VPNs are not snake oil. They transfer the trust of your internet activity from a place of low-trust, your ISP, to a place of high-trust, ideally a trustworthy VPN like Mullvad, IVPN, or Proton. Among other benefits. If you don't like your ISP creating a profile of you and selling it to target ads to you, you should use a VPN. >Should I use a VPN? Yes, almost certainly. A VPN has many advantages, including: 1. Hiding…

Making your traffic cross jurisdictional boundaries also adds a level of difficulty for tracking usage.

Local law enforcement can tap a local ISP for their records, but it would take a scale more effort to then tap a non-local service provider for their records. Each additional level of difficulty adds a cost, and at some point those costs aren't worth the potential results.

(assuming that the VPN provider doesn't just roll over due to an email inquiry, or isn't a front for very cooperative law enforcement).

Re: Mullvad exit IPs are surprisingly identifying

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> place of low-trust, your ISP, to a place of high-trust, ideally a trustworthy VPN like Mullvad This is highly subjective statement. Almost all commercial VPN services farm and sell your data. Just by that, my ISP is definitely high trust point while any commercial VPN is a low trust.

Most ISPs have invested big bucks in Deep Packet Inspection

That just helps them classify the type of traffic. They're not breaking the encryption to see the actual content.

Re: Mullvad exit IPs are surprisingly identifying

#47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

VPNs are not snake oil. They transfer the trust of your internet activity from a place of low-trust, your ISP, to a place of high-trust, ideally a trustworthy VPN like Mullvad, IVPN, or Proton. Among other benefits. If you don't like your ISP creating a profile of you and selling it to target ads to you, you should use a VPN. >Should I use a VPN? Yes, almost certainly. A VPN has many advantages, including: 1. Hiding…

> place of low-trust, your ISP, to a place of high-trust, ideally a trustworthy VPN like Mullvad This is highly subjective statement. Almost all commercial VPN services farm and sell your data. Just by that, my ISP is definitely high trust point while any commercial VPN is a low trust.

My ISP is in a communist country, they sell other products like TV boxes, cameras, clouds and have ads/trackers on all of their products too.

Should I trust my ISP than Mullvad? LMFAO.

Re: Mullvad exit IPs are surprisingly identifying

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prepaid 5g sim cards and 5g modem.

Yes and 5G provider knows your exact location while VPNs can be easily chained.

Sure, if you want to get crazy with it you put prepaid phone in another location, put it on your Tailscale VPN then proxy all traffic through the prepaid phone with something like: https://github.com/kost/revsocks

Phone doesn't even need data if you have access to wifi wherever you stash it.

VPN chaining easier though.

Re: Mullvad exit IPs are surprisingly identifying

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Given that Mullvad is basically a bulletproof VPN host[1], it would be great if site operators could rely on this property to enact bans. Given that the solution is simple (add a pseudorandom seed), Mullvad will likely push out a fix within a couple days. 1. It's the preferred VPN of TeamPCP.

Source? Been googling for this but I don’t see any relevant info
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