Let this be an example of when you present your own work in real life. Context and framing is everything and does influence its interpretation and how people perceive your work. This has material effects on your life despite nothing objectively changing about the quality of your work.
What happens when you post a real Monet and say it's AI?
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Re: What happens when you post a real Monet and say it's AI?
#421: the answers posted are cherrypicked to prove a specific point 2: some of the (albeit mislead) answers basically say "it's nice but it's not something a person willingly outlined and drew" and they are not wrong 3: some answers complain on the lack of depth and detail, color blurbs, and we have to agree the tested version is of very low resolution so in the end we are left with: "some people who were told it was AI…
You're not surprised that people's judgement seems to be worthless?
Re: What happens when you post a real Monet and say it's AI?
#43“Made by Claude”
Re: What happens when you post a real Monet and say it's AI?
#44This is like asking people to rate this plate of bugs while serving them chicken. Even if tastes great, of course some people who will have a visceral reaction against it.
But they’re confidently asserting a whole bunch of specific made up reasons this is shittier than a real Monet. It’s like the sommeliers who can’t detect red vs. white wine when blindfolded.
People would come up with very specific made up reasons why they hate that plate of chicken as well, so I don't see your point.
As for your red vs. white wine comparison, it'd only make sense if one of those was doing its best to pretend to be the other one.
Re: What happens when you post a real Monet and say it's AI?
#451: the answers posted are cherrypicked to prove a specific point 2: some of the (albeit mislead) answers basically say "it's nice but it's not something a person willingly outlined and drew" and they are not wrong 3: some answers complain on the lack of depth and detail, color blurbs, and we have to agree the tested version is of very low resolution so in the end we are left with: "some people who were told it was AI…
You're not surprised that people's judgement seems to be worthless?
the world is big, a given proportion of people will always behave strangely to the others
Re: What happens when you post a real Monet and say it's AI?
#46NFTbro discovers expectancy effect. This has nothing to do with art or social experiments, so much so it's actually insulting to one's intelligence.
Re: What happens when you post a real Monet and say it's AI?
#47Two interesting replies: It’s not a physical painting made by a well known artist. It’s trying to hard to be a late Monet. How much of our opinions are driven by context, rather than the actual subject? If Monet’s work is not so great without the context, is it still great? Or is context a critical piece of the art itself? Do we need to view a Monet piece within the scope of other Monet pieces, other artists, time pe…
Yeah I agree, in art a lot is driven by context: there's so many paintings or songs that are not outstanding in itself, but the full human context around it makes it significant.
That brings up the idea that art can be "outstanding in itself", aesthetic in a vacuum, disconnected from what people are caring about. That's dubious, but anyway the AI art doesn't attempt that. Instead it has access to a lot of freeze-dried human context which it rehydrates and presents like a fresh meal, so it partially succeeds at providing that significance.
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#48Being able to imitate Monet doesn't make you Monet. AI can't create anything original.
I loathe the blasted copyright washing machine as much as the next intellectually honest person, but: > AI can't create anything original. Can we? I mean, don't we base our output on experience and reprocess references + memories of things past to create what we deem as "new"?
Many artists have a distinct, original style. Originality is the ability to create novelty in a way which is aesthetically pleasing. I've yet to see AI create a single distinct style which is beautiful.
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#49Very good. We need more of these experiments in all areas. Hopefully it helps people to at least be more conscious of their bias.
I do think this reveals peoples' biases, but not in the way you probably do. I think Monet just wasn't as good as his renown purports. EDIT: I doubt this experiment would go similarly for a Caravaggio or a Michelangelo.
I think it shows that art and how people relate to it is more complicated than you think. If the existence of a bunch of handpicked comments can lead you to your conclusion, then you will struggle to find any "good" art at all. Which may be an entirely coherent interpretation of the state of things; just not a very interesting one.
Re: What happens when you post a real Monet and say it's AI?
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
But they’re confidently asserting a whole bunch of specific made up reasons this is shittier than a real Monet. It’s like the sommeliers who can’t detect red vs. white wine when blindfolded.
People would come up with very specific made up reasons why they hate that plate of chicken as well, so I don't see your point. As for your red vs. white wine comparison, it'd only make sense if one of those was doing its best to pretend to be the other one.
The point is the objections are bullshit. They can’t tell!