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Re: Tell HN: Dont use Claude Design, lost access to my projects after unsubscribing

#41
post #11

Sorry but that one is on you. This sounds like expected behavior and I wouldn't blame any company for doing that.

I didn't know its expected behaviour until now. Will keep it in mind, but so far the big companies, let us browse our past chats, even after unsubscribing. Praying this will not become norm now.

Re: Tell HN: Dont use Claude Design, lost access to my projects after unsubscribing

#42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean LLMs are blind? All frontier models are multimodal, which means they literally consume images as tokens. They can “see” exactly as well as they can “read”. Also, GPT-Image-2 is not a diffusion model, it is based on Transformers, like other LLMs are.

Tokens are not a substitute for a numerical measurement. Ask a LLM how much time has passed. Watch it hallucinate wildly. Has anyone noticed that Opus has trouble building ascii diagrams (often leaves out spaces so lines are misaligned)?

Ok? Your comment is in no way responsive to anything I said.

Re: Tell HN: Dont use Claude Design, lost access to my projects after unsubscribing

#44
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You get two years of 'free' (readonly) storage if you unsubscribe from google, it's very unusual to just nuke all access immediately. > are required by compliance to remove customer data within X amount of time at the end of the contractual relationship. that's a very bullshit justification, we're not talking about the 'delete account' button - especially since claude has a free tier.

I guess it's not a termination, but a downgrade to the "free" tier. But that still makes sense, given Claude Design is limited "to Pro, Max, Team, and Enterprise plans". He's not on that plan anymore so.. what commercial reason could they possibly have to keep his data? Google Workspace seems to halt access immediately[1] and purge data within 60d[2]. For comparison, Atlassian leaves you access for 15d, and purges da…

So if I subscribe again? do I expect to have the previous data or it will start afresh?

I want to know if I should subscribe again to get this data or shouldn't bother.

You can talk about all these rules, but that was my data, when I was subscribed to their product, I'm not asking for access to generate more, just my past sessions.

Re: Tell HN: Dont use Claude Design, lost access to my projects after unsubscribing

#45
post #30

It is still there and you may get it easily. If you export your data [0] all your Claude Design chats are in a design_chats directory along with the code, even if your account currently has no access to Claude Design. It is .json, but converting that into usable code is easily done, either manually or by asking any fairly modern LLM via OpenCode. Just did it myself, it works. I will say that I'd still prefer if they…

Thank you for this suggestion, just downloaded my data and the sessions are in there.

Re: Tell HN: Dont use Claude Design, lost access to my projects after unsubscribing

#46

And AI hypers suggest to build your whole career/identity on this shit. Already foresee "skill issue", "well you should've x, y, z, obviously", etc.

People often build their career skills on proprietary tech. Photoshop, Figma, Java, AWS architects

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Re: Tell HN: Dont use Claude Design, lost access to my projects after unsubscribing

#47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People often build their career skills on proprietary tech. Photoshop, Figma, Java, AWS architects

Just because people do it does not mean that it is a good idea.

Are you saying that building a career with Adobe Flash wasn't a good idea?

Re: Tell HN: Dont use Claude Design, lost access to my projects after unsubscribing

#48
post #8

A lot of these things are made fast and loose, and unfortunately this is the reality of using the bleeding edge. Even Figma went through this kind of thing very early on. To add something else to the discussion however, I'd encourage people to skip out on Claude Design for other reasons, and that is the inherent restrictions of LLMs for visual design. LLMs are blind, and spatial relativity is tremendously hard across…

What do you mean LLMs are blind? All frontier models are multimodal, which means they literally consume images as tokens. They can “see” exactly as well as they can “read”. Also, GPT-Image-2 is not a diffusion model, it is based on Transformers, like other LLMs are.

I guess they do "see" but more like "see an explanation of the image", not "see" as in experience visually. They're really bad at details and perfection when it comes to images, and doesn't understand things like visual hierarchy, affordances and other fundamental design concepts. Most of them are able to describe those things with letters, but doesn't seem to actually fundamentally grasp it when asking it to do UIs even when mentioning these things.

Try doing 100% vibe-coding with an agent and loosely specify what kind of application you want, and observe how the resulting UI and UX is a complete mess, unless you specify exactly how the UI and UX should work in practice.

If they actually had spatial understanding, together with being able to visually experience images, then they'd probably be able to build proper UI/UX from the get go, but since they only could describe what those things are, you end up with the messes even the current SOTAs produce.

Re: Tell HN: Dont use Claude Design, lost access to my projects after unsubscribing

#49
post #36
post #15

I have been using Claude Design + Claude Code, and results have been excellent. I have explicit clean-up instructions in Claude Code, and the handoff skill in Claude Design is pretty solid. I've been on product launches many times, so can drive the design side appropriately and keep things focused. Has been a wonderful addition to my workflow. As usual with any agent-driven tool - GIGO. If the human driving has no pr…

DId you read the post? They aren't giving access to my projects, because I unsubsribed from my max subscription to try out codex.

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Re: Tell HN: Dont use Claude Design, lost access to my projects after unsubscribing

#50

Aside from OP's post there's another issue with claude design worth mentioning. Yes, it makes absolutely beautiful designs, stunningly so, but the actual code is not something a human could ever maintain. So its like ending up with an opaque blob. Write-once, read-never, or almost disposal code. This is kind of bad because code people aren't going to bother to read might contain vulnerabilities. It's an extreme examp…

I dont use the code directly actually. It is just for me to understand how the app looks like initially as a starting point. Previously I have used stitch by google, and even then, it was just to explore product design in the initial stages. Just to ground myself, and see how the product looks end to end. Also mostly I will be doing them in react, so the html code isn't very useful. I would rather share the screenshot directly rather than the html code during development.

I actually find, claude models to have superior visual reasoning, in their multi modal llms, im not talking about image generation LLMs. so I just share the picture, to let it undersand the layout and go from there, and just iterate until I like the final look of it.

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