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A desire for a loud car correlates with higher scores on psychopathy and sadism

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Re: A desire for a loud car correlates with higher scores on psychopathy and sadism

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Post by zthrowaway »

autoexec wrote: post #12
altairprime wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve noticed in my own car’s forums that over about ten years, most of the loud-seekers moved on to other cars while the remainder of us have much more diversity of gender and ‘loudness’ interests. Our sample size of self-nominated participants is also a couple thousand, not at all restricted to undergrads, and anecdotally parallels the study: those who seek loudness uniformly present as men, and in large majority te…

> those who seek loudness uniformly present as men, and in large majority tend to treat prosocial-community responses with disregard, hostility, or mockery. Is the loudness then just a big "fuck you" to the rest of the world or does it provide the loudness seeker with something besides the joy of knowing that they're pissing off everyone within earshot? If they were the last living person on Earth would they still go…

I think it’s worth pointing out that there’s a subset of people who have loud exhausts because the engine actually needs it. They’ve supped it up to an insane spec for performance reasons. You can’t have 500+ horsepower try to breathe through a straw. There are sports cars that are loud from the factory because of this.

Now is it smart to do all of that just to drive 35mph in traffic? That’s another discussion :)

Re: A desire for a loud car correlates with higher scores on psychopathy and sadism

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Post by RaSoJo »

Participants were 529 undergraduate business students with a mean age of 18.14 years

I find this participant set pointless.

Most kids who were with me in college dreamt of owning muscle cars and Harleys.

Fast forward 25 years: The same set, now in their 40s, get elevated blood pressure at the mere thought of having to share the road with a lifted truck.

Re: A desire for a loud car correlates with higher scores on psychopathy and sadism

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mianos wrote: post #20
Animats wrote: post #6

Participants were 529 (289 men, 234 women, and 6 identified as other) undergraduate business students with a mean age of 18.14 years (SD = 1.19, range 16 to 37). Sigh. A sample of convenience. Psychology remains the study of undergraduates. If they wanted real answers, they'd go to bike events.

As a biker, there is sure a lot of peer pressure to have a louder bike. My s1k has the factory msport straight through akro muffler and a valve system that opens the larger exit, also bypassing the baffles in the 'lunchbox' underneath, at 7k. Meaning it's very quiet until it's being asked to go very fast. Replacing the cats and lunchbox with headers gives under 1hp on a 220hp bike. But, every meetup, multiple people…

Thank you. As a biker I really dislike bikes made lout just to be made loud.

No, it doesn't save lives, most serious accidents are being t-boned on the junction, the car failing to yield to the biker with priority, biker losing control over the machine, or biker being reckless.

Most of it (at least in the UK) is attributed to ineffective observation, which in case of the bikers means education (training) and better visibility (special lights, bright coloured jacket and helmet).

Not a deafening ride.

Re: A desire for a loud car correlates with higher scores on psychopathy and sadism

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Post by episode404 »

moravak1984 wrote: post #35
amanaplanacanal wrote: post #25

My friends and I always assumed it correlates with a small penis.

It is true for gun ownership, so I guess it is true for noise. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11143840/

Oh how conveniently this would fit into your worldview ;)

If you had read the actual study, you would have noticed this paragraph:

the odds of owning a gun (any gun or a military-style rifle) are lower for men who are more dissatisfied with the size of their penises. In fact, each one-unit increase in penis size dissatisfaction reduces the odds of owning any gun by 11% (OR = 0.89, p < .05) and the odds of owning a military-style rifle by 20% (OR = .80, p < .01). According to Model 2 of Table 5, each one-unit increase in penis size dissatisfaction also reduces the expected count of total guns owned by 11% (IRR = 0.89, p < .01). Across outcomes, we failed to observe any associations between penis enlargement and gun ownership.

Re: A desire for a loud car correlates with higher scores on psychopathy and sadism

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Post by episode404 »

amanaplanacanal wrote: post #25

My friends and I always assumed it correlates with a small penis.

This probably won't surprise you, but most of the time, the only variable psychologists measure during initial patient assessment is penis size, because it explains nearly every male behavior there is.

Re: A desire for a loud car correlates with higher scores on psychopathy and sadism

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zthrowaway wrote: post #40
tdeck wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess this explains why in Japan very few of the motorcycles are loud. It's something I was surprised by when moving here from the US. It seems like in the US most (or perhaps many more) riders are being deliberately antisocial?

A lot of the sports bikes I see around my area are operated by 18 year olds. Who at 18 in this country are being perfectly upstanding members of society? There’s always some stupidity in that phase of life. I wouldn’t put too much thought into it.

It's entirely possible to be mischievous or a prankster without being an asshole.

Re: A desire for a loud car correlates with higher scores on psychopathy and sadism

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binary132 wrote: post #21
autoexec wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> those who seek loudness uniformly present as men, and in large majority tend to treat prosocial-community responses with disregard, hostility, or mockery. Is the loudness then just a big "fuck you" to the rest of the world or does it provide the loudness seeker with something besides the joy of knowing that they're pissing off everyone within earshot? If they were the last living person on Earth would they still go…

Same reason someone would wear bright red shoes or a loud outfit, I guess. Maybe to you it’s annoying, but maybe to them it’s cool, loud, and fun. Seems easy enough to understand, even if it’s a little antisocial. Same reason punks do punk stuff, kinda, could be one way to look at it.

That's a category error.

One is a presentation and the other is noise pollution negatively impacting everyone else and the environment.

Re: A desire for a loud car correlates with higher scores on psychopathy and sadism

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Post by skewbone »

Those questions don't allow for the possibility of installing louder exhausts for non-psychoanalyzable reasons... There are also degrees of loudness.

I put a slightly louder exhaust on my turbo car because the large torque jump at around 2000 rpm is/was harder to anticipate with the standard exhaust and cabin sound dampening at speed. Now the engine note is a better indicator of the impending torque jump and makes driving smoother and easier without taking my eyes off the road and onto the tachometer.

Re: A desire for a loud car correlates with higher scores on psychopathy and sadism

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Post by red-iron-pine »

RaSoJo wrote: post #42

Participants were 529 undergraduate business students with a mean age of 18.14 years I find this participant set pointless. Most kids who were with me in college dreamt of owning muscle cars and Harleys. Fast forward 25 years: The same set, now in their 40s, get elevated blood pressure at the mere thought of having to share the road with a lifted truck.

At 20, while in the Marine Corps, I absolutely had to have a lifted orange Jeep.

decades later, it is cringe, and after a friend of a friend was killed by an idiot in a RAM truck, I'm 100% in favor of banning the "yank tank" style trucks

youts gonna yout

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