haiku reminds me of the powerpc macs from 1998 that small bar at the bottom that pulls out. It has that sort of colorful appeal to put it on a colored clear plastic imac or emac you know the orange vanilla motif i remember using.
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Re: Haiku
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the simplest way. More interesting is the result for is_computer_on_fire() https://github.com/VitruvianOS/Vitruvian/blob/0e4c6e33ab235b...
Why does it return a double?
Per the BeBook:
> Returns the temperature of the motherboard if the computer is currently on fire.
Re: Haiku
#43It's a shame that Be failed. I think they were a victim of Microsoft's aggressive anti-competitive activities in the late-1990s, combined with Apple deciding to bring back Steve Jobs via the acquisition of NeXT (making Apple a serious competitor in the same segment that Be was targeting -- multimedia and realtime applications). Ultimately, they prevailed in winning about $24M from Microsoft, but that was after the co…
Be was pretty close from being acquired by Apple instead of NeXT. It was also founded by an ex-Apple employee (Jean-Louis Gassée).
MacOSX would be really different today if it were based on BeOS instead of NeXT...
Re: Haiku
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sorry for being negative here: What is the motivation for recreating Be? What would you hope to obtain that you cannot just by using, say, a customized Linux Mint? If it's just historical/nostalgia/challenge, I get it. But people seem to believe there is something else too, and I'd like to know what that is.
> What would you hope to obtain that you cannot just by using, say, a customized Linux Mint? When things are coded right, Haiku / BeOS is blazing fast (every single thing runs in a separate thread), and resource usage is tiny. I think the OS only uses about half a gig of RAM? When the apps are coded right, there's a feeling that this is how our modern computers could have been, free from bloated software and using th…
I like how Action Retro has pointed out that installing a fresh Haiku system is often faster than booting a Windows or macOS system.
As I said in another comment, I've only played with Haiku in a VM for not very much time, but I am a huge supporter of operating systems that are willing to break out of the codified mediocrity we've labeled "POSIX"; I suspect that we might be leaving a lot of performance on the table by constantly trying to POSIX compliant all the time.
Re: Haiku
#45It's a shame that Be failed. I think they were a victim of Microsoft's aggressive anti-competitive activities in the late-1990s, combined with Apple deciding to bring back Steve Jobs via the acquisition of NeXT (making Apple a serious competitor in the same segment that Be was targeting -- multimedia and realtime applications). Ultimately, they prevailed in winning about $24M from Microsoft, but that was after the co…
They knew Microsoft was monopolistic. They should have planned around it by making an x86 BeBox. (Which still would have failed because they didn't have the marketing budget.)
Re: Haiku
#46Ah, haiku. I like a lot of the ideas it has, and wish someone would make a hybrid of some of its ideas with an actual unix
That's the thing, it was the most novel OS of the time.
Even the OS we use today are all based on some kind of Unix, except for Windows that trace their legacy to VMS through Windows NT.
BeOS on the other time was written from scratch in the 1990's.
Re: Haiku
#47BeOS was my dream from childhood. Haiku is amazing, especially because the original BeOS only existed for five years, while Haiku has been going for 24 already. What stamina!
Sorry for being negative here: What is the motivation for recreating Be? What would you hope to obtain that you cannot just by using, say, a customized Linux Mint? If it's just historical/nostalgia/challenge, I get it. But people seem to believe there is something else too, and I'd like to know what that is.
Resource efficiency is a huge one. If you are familiar with the Via Nano: it's a SLOW x86_64 chip (sometimes used in thin clients) that feels about half as fast as older AMD 64 cpu. Haiku feels great on a Via Nano, and it's really storage-space-efficient. Linux distros are slower, and use more storage space (especially important for using an OS on a thin client PC).
Re: Haiku
#48Best OS from all niche os category! tier one: linux, windows, freebsd tier two: openbsd, netbsd tier three: haiku tier four: all others One of the few OSes where my wifi and sound just worked out of the box :) Its totally usable DESKTOP fOS.
Lots of love to freebsd,openbsd,netbsd but I am curious why you placed freebsd at tier one and not others like openbsd/netbsd.
I feel like I like openbsd more from security perspective with things like pledge() etc.
Also how is the driver situation for freebsd and compared to linux and other bsd's?
Re: Haiku
#49It's a shame that Be failed. I think they were a victim of Microsoft's aggressive anti-competitive activities in the late-1990s, combined with Apple deciding to bring back Steve Jobs via the acquisition of NeXT (making Apple a serious competitor in the same segment that Be was targeting -- multimedia and realtime applications). Ultimately, they prevailed in winning about $24M from Microsoft, but that was after the co…
They were never going to compete with Microsoft even if MS hadn’t screwed them (which MS definitely did). At the time, MS was invincible in the enterprise market. Be’s only path to success was with Apple. Jean-Louis Gassée was negotiating the buy-out with Apple but he wanted more than Apple was willing to pay and Jobs was the key acquihire at Next, before people started talking about “acquihire” as a concept. Unfortunately, Apple wasn’t going to acquire both Be and Next.
Re: Haiku
#50Ah, haiku. I like a lot of the ideas it has, and wish someone would make a hybrid of some of its ideas with an actual unix
That's the thing, it was the most novel OS of the time. Even the OS we use today are all based on some kind of Unix, except for Windows that trace their legacy to VMS through Windows NT. BeOS on the other time was written from scratch in the 1990's.
Yeah, novel things are needed for innovation. Just see how much Linux and other modern unices have taken from plan 9. I made my comment because while I like some of the things (the filesystem, it being written in C++, and parts of the kernel) I still vastly prefer an actual unix or unix clone instead of something completely different with a posix-ish coat of paint