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A look at Denver’s “Unlocking Housing Choices” plan

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Re: A look at Denver’s “Unlocking Housing Choices” plan

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A rare anti-Betteridge's law of headlines article. Yes, there are laws that, if passed, would stop or slow or even reverse the increasing price of real estate. Would they pass? Hard to say and probably not quickly. As has been repeated many times: it's in the financial interest of people who own property to increase their property's value by constraining supply via zoning/building codes, and they usually have a good…

> it's the same story all over the US. At least some places are different: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47433058

No, it's not. Austin's population growth has been at _best_ stagnant. And I made a prediction that it had actually decreased.

We'll see once 2025 ACS data is released.

Re: A look at Denver’s “Unlocking Housing Choices” plan

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post #9

You cant just 4x every plot because that would destroy the ultilties that have been allocated.

I have never considered this nor have I heard it brought up before. Good point!

I am only aware of this because we actually ran into the problem. We started allowing more subdivisions and densification in our city and the waste water infrastructure got quickly pushed to its limits now we have to halt construction while the new water infrastructure is upgraded to accommodate for the massively increased zoning density.

Re: A look at Denver’s “Unlocking Housing Choices” plan

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"ideally, a property owner should be able to walk into city hall and leave with a permit the same day if they’re building the kind of housing that the city explicitly wants to see built."

Hear, hear! Finally someone gets it. Same day permits for all high density housing projects.

BTW, the NIMBYs are definitely going to fight the cottage homes tooth and nail otherwise. "Where will all the new cars go???"

Re: A look at Denver’s “Unlocking Housing Choices” plan

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post #28

No, we can't. Once could lower the rate of increase of housing prices (and, more realistically, land values), but "gentrification" isn't really just about pricing, but a change in preferences: Areas close to urban centers had low prices because people wanted to live in deep suburbs, far away from city crime and bad schools. Now they are desirable, and thus people far more affluent are going to bit outbidding the comm…

Rights != Desires.

Desires are much more relevant in day-to-day politics. Rights are less frequently up for question.

Re: A look at Denver’s “Unlocking Housing Choices” plan

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post #43

My neighborhood in California added plenty of these and it didn’t change the vibe of the neighborhood at all. It’s a great YIMBY solution because it satisfies both the pro and anti development crowds.

Right - the vibe of the neighborhood matters. More than the word "vibe" implies.

Re: A look at Denver’s “Unlocking Housing Choices” plan

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post #39

The answer is "no". That's because WE DO NOT HAVE a housing crisis. And yes, I'm not crazy. We have 1.1 housing units per family right _now_. We likely will have the record number of housing units per capita within about 2 years just due to the current pipeline of new housing. These numbers are easy to verify. Why are we talking about housing then? That's because we have a JOBS crisis. The only available good jobs ar…

This is the first time I've heard of this locational jobs crisis. Where did you learn about this? I would like to read more about it

Re: A look at Denver’s “Unlocking Housing Choices” plan

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Remove Zoning >Remove Red Tape (Environmental impact assessments I absolutely understand what prompts this desperation, but much like the desperation that prompted the election of Trump, it's very, very much more bad than it is good.

> it's very, very much more bad than it is good Is it? I don’t have a clear picture in either direction. What does an environmental impact assessment for a housing project typically result in?

Well, I've witnessed this on dozens of houses in the town where my ex-wife grew up. The local river was slow-moving in a shallow river valley. Every spring, it would flood, and houses built within a half-mile of the main river would flood up to the second floor.

Would the environmental assessment help? I'd like to think so, but when I almost bought in the area, I discovered that the floodplain maps were "optimistic."

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