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I let AI build a tool to help me figure out what was waking me up at night

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Re: I let AI build a tool to help me figure out what was waking me up at night

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Post by jdsnape »

nevi-me wrote: post #17

That CO2 concentration looks unhealthy, I wonder to what extent it's affecting your sleep quality (as opposed to waking you up). > Measure before you fix In my case, I got a few IKEA CO2 sensors, and after leaving them in the bedrooms for a few days, we found that leaving an outside window slightly open + the bedroom door open, kept the CO2 levels below 600PPM at night. We're 1000ft/300m away from a motorway, but for…

I also agree co2 levels are super important, but I’m wondering: in your situation isn’t air pollution from the motorway a concern? Not sure how to balance that one

Re: I let AI build a tool to help me figure out what was waking me up at night

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Post by jdsnape »

Eric_WVGG wrote: post #38
nevi-me wrote: post #17

That CO2 concentration looks unhealthy, I wonder to what extent it's affecting your sleep quality (as opposed to waking you up). > Measure before you fix In my case, I got a few IKEA CO2 sensors, and after leaving them in the bedrooms for a few days, we found that leaving an outside window slightly open + the bedroom door open, kept the CO2 levels below 600PPM at night. We're 1000ft/300m away from a motorway, but for…

plants plants plants. Most of these are dummy easy to care for, too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_Clean_Air_Study#List_of_p...

Plants are nice…but, from your link:

“These results are not applicable to typical buildings, where outdoor-to-indoor air exchange already removes volatile organic compounds (VOCs) at a rate that could only be matched by the placement of 10–1000 plants/m2 of a building's floor space.[2]

The results also failed to replicate in future studies”

Re: I let AI build a tool to help me figure out what was waking me up at night

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Post by showmypost »

bad_username wrote: post #18

> I get the sleep data from my Garmin* watch. Every watch and ring calculates sleep slightly differently, and to be honest, I don't fully trust any of them on the exact sleep stage I was in at any given second. I love my Garmin, but it's one of the worst smart watches to track sleep with. It consistently ranks poorly in tests that stack it up against pro sleep equipment, and from my experience it struggles to even de…

Totally agree with you, that’s why I wanted to check. I btw turned off the morning report long time ago, so it’s more about me checking the sleep stages after realizing that I feel without energy. Also my sleep outside the city is much better. In the end it turns out that most times it is real and an external noise woke me up. Not always, there are false positives and sometimes you just wake up (nightmare, stress, sickness, ..)

Re: I let AI build a tool to help me figure out what was waking me up at night

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Post by showmypost »

kmm wrote: post #23

I like the temperate graph halfway down the page. It looks like two decaying exponentials alternating every ~40 minutes, with the downward one steeper than the upward one. It's a neat visualization of hysteresis, where the thermostat presumably has a different temperature threshold for turning off or turning on (or perhaps there's a minimum time between state switches). Without the scale it's hard to know for sure.

Yes it’s the AC keeping the temperature. I have different targets set depending on season and time of night (cooler to fall asleep, warmer in the morning). Added this data because I already have it in Home Assistant and you never know what other crazy conclusions you can get from looking at the data :D

Re: I let AI build a tool to help me figure out what was waking me up at night

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Post by tpolm »

phainopepla2 wrote: post #34
showmypost wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m actually the author of the post and doing regular breathing exercises and some additional things. Pretty sure my cortisol levels at night are (currently) not an issue. Morning walks looking up into the sky also help me a lot. Falling asleep isn’t my issue I grew up in the country side and unfortunately, where I live now, double glassing isn’t a thing unless you live in a recently built house. That doesn’t nullify…

If you're regularly waking around 3 (as opposed to random times throughout the night) you might want to reconsider cortisol as a possibility, at least as setting a baseline wakefulness that allows you to be easily woken up from a noise. There is a natural cortisol spike at that time, and that combined with elevated levels from background stress causes the same problem for many people who fall asleep without issues, m…

Second this

Have the same pattern, issue is cortisol/stress, not sounds / etc that happen precisely at night

Built simular things tonwhat Op did (thoug using Oura for sleep tracking, not Garmin)

Result: no statistically significant variations in sounds, CO2 normal etc. Cortisol is what doctors/AI told me first

Re: I let AI build a tool to help me figure out what was waking me up at night

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Post by megous »

jdsnape wrote: post #41
nevi-me wrote: post #17

That CO2 concentration looks unhealthy, I wonder to what extent it's affecting your sleep quality (as opposed to waking you up). > Measure before you fix In my case, I got a few IKEA CO2 sensors, and after leaving them in the bedrooms for a few days, we found that leaving an outside window slightly open + the bedroom door open, kept the CO2 levels below 600PPM at night. We're 1000ft/300m away from a motorway, but for…

I also agree co2 levels are super important, but I’m wondering: in your situation isn’t air pollution from the motorway a concern? Not sure how to balance that one

3k+ is well into the headache / feel really bad range

we rarely get over 1k here

Re: I let AI build a tool to help me figure out what was waking me up at night

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Post by showmypost »

phainopepla2 wrote: post #34
showmypost wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m actually the author of the post and doing regular breathing exercises and some additional things. Pretty sure my cortisol levels at night are (currently) not an issue. Morning walks looking up into the sky also help me a lot. Falling asleep isn’t my issue I grew up in the country side and unfortunately, where I live now, double glassing isn’t a thing unless you live in a recently built house. That doesn’t nullify…

If you're regularly waking around 3 (as opposed to random times throughout the night) you might want to reconsider cortisol as a possibility, at least as setting a baseline wakefulness that allows you to be easily woken up from a noise. There is a natural cortisol spike at that time, and that combined with elevated levels from background stress causes the same problem for many people who fall asleep without issues, m…

The 3am part was just a random picked time. But interesting to know, thanks for sharing! I had some stress related sleeping issues about a year ago, that’s why I started with proactively provoking morning cortisol spikes and preventing them in the evenings which definitely helped. At that time I went through some personal challenges, so it made sense

Re: I let AI build a tool to help me figure out what was waking me up at night

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Post by _dain_ »

showmypost wrote: post #28
_dain_ wrote: post #5

This is cool don't get me wrong, but surely overcomplicated? Why not just record audio to disk the whole night then eyeball the waveform for loudness spikes? If you just don't connect it to any network at all, there's no data breach risk (or am I misunderstanding the justification for the noise-detection toggle thing?). Also the AI-generated hero image looks vile.

Thx for the feedback about the hero image. I just removed it. (you weren’t the only one pointing it out) The intention was to have something less detailed than the screenshot in the post. About the other thing: yes this would have worked for a night or so. I wanted to be able to go back and forth between nights and compare. I also had concerns about the SD-card durability and storage capacity. Still, after an hour in…

Makes sense. Hope you get better sleep!

Re: I let AI build a tool to help me figure out what was waking me up at night

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Post by b3ing »

babblingfish wrote: post #39

Hey, OP, consider sleeping with ear plugs. They're scientifically proven to reduce night time awakenings due to audio disturbances. [1] [1] https://academic.oup.com/sleep/advance-article/doi/10.1093/s...

I would think earwax build up would increase with that

Re: I let AI build a tool to help me figure out what was waking me up at night

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Post by showmypost »

pizzly wrote: post #22

This is really cool. We did a similar thing around 2 years ago but didn't use AI in that case. Just used a phone to record a few nights sleeping. Then a python script. I manually listened for some time in order to find the threshold amplitude (where all sounds would be ignored below and tracked above). Generated a graph that should the spikes of interest. Clicked on the spikes which went to the timestamp in the audio…

You definitely went for a simpler solution!

And thanks for sharing that comment, I can second your two observations

For multiple months, I thought I’m waking up at night because I need to go to the bathroom so often (even checked for insulin resistance but markers were perfect). Interestingly enough, most of the times (not always) there are one or multiple louder sounds just before I wake up to go to the bathroom. Zero memory or conscious perception of the noise, still woke up and feeling like I need to go to the bathroom

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