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How Fast Does Claude, Acting as a User Space IP Stack, Respond to Pings?

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Re: How Fast Does Claude, Acting as a User Space IP Stack, Respond to Pings?

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Post by wolttam »

self_awareness wrote: post #36
mystifyingpoi wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

No. In our lives, the game we play, we can do whatever we like. There are consequences for some things, but generally we can do lots of things. We can kill people and get away with it. We can also help them. Should we hate life because it's possible to do really shitty things in life? I don't think so. We should hate the "players" who actually do shitty things.

Ok but hating a guy playing with an LLM is a bit extreme. These things are in many ways still just toys (toys that are becoming increasingly useful).

People almost certainly send dumber stuff to Claude than this, and just don’t write blog posts about it.

You could try other providers if Anthropic is too slow/limited, there’s some good alternatives.

(And your anger should probably be directed at Anthropic who hasn’t put in “better controls”, not the masses for not using the tool in the way you think they should. Hating rarely leads to anything productive.)

Re: How Fast Does Claude, Acting as a User Space IP Stack, Respond to Pings?

#42

Post by self_awareness »

wolttam wrote: post #41
self_awareness wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. In our lives, the game we play, we can do whatever we like. There are consequences for some things, but generally we can do lots of things. We can kill people and get away with it. We can also help them. Should we hate life because it's possible to do really shitty things in life? I don't think so. We should hate the "players" who actually do shitty things.

Ok but hating a guy playing with an LLM is a bit extreme. These things are in many ways still just toys (toys that are becoming increasingly useful). People almost certainly send dumber stuff to Claude than this, and just don’t write blog posts about it. You could try other providers if Anthropic is too slow/limited, there’s some good alternatives. (And your anger should probably be directed at Anthropic who hasn’t p…

I'm not angry, I'm just disappointed. Hating is just terminology I've used to reply to the parent poster. Personally I don't think hating anything will solve any problem.

True, people send dumber stuff to LLM, but some of them have the decency not to brag about it. But if they brag, then the common sense I imagine would be to tell them they are currently conducting a shitty thing. Yet on HN over 100 people told him that it's a cool idea. Also you seem to also be one of the "if the system allows it, then we all should do it" mentality people.

I mean you could argue that buying stuff and immediately throwing it to trash is perfectly fine, and if I'm mad about it, then it's my problem because "the person doesn't use the thing the same way I would imagine it to be used", but this argument just sounds silly to me. I know I'm right.

We have brains for a reason. We should use our free will, not offload any thinking to the system we live in.

Unless we don't have free will. I believe some of us don't have it, based on what I read.

Re: How Fast Does Claude, Acting as a User Space IP Stack, Respond to Pings?

#43

Post by mghackerlady »

twoodfin wrote: post #15

Modulo Anthropic messing with the model for load mitigation, I wonder how stable this result is. 1,000 pings, how many correctly ponged?

is pong an actual term? If so I might've found a CS term better than wyde (2 bytes)

Re: How Fast Does Claude, Acting as a User Space IP Stack, Respond to Pings?

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Post by coldcity_again »

mghackerlady wrote: post #43
twoodfin wrote: post #15

Modulo Anthropic messing with the model for load mitigation, I wonder how stable this result is. 1,000 pings, how many correctly ponged?

is pong an actual term? If so I might've found a CS term better than wyde (2 bytes)

Yes, very much so. A ping is a request, a pong a response.

Re: How Fast Does Claude, Acting as a User Space IP Stack, Respond to Pings?

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Post by coldcity_again »

AlienRobot wrote: post #35
fl7305 wrote: post #28

Do some people still claim "LLMs are just dumb auto completers"? Because this seems to disprove that claim pretty convincingly?

It proves that code, specifically any code in the form of bytes, is, too, language.

I like that. And if poetry can be defined as succinct use of language (perhaps a dubious assertion), then code can be poetry.

Re: How Fast Does Claude, Acting as a User Space IP Stack, Respond to Pings?

#47

Post by dymk »

mghackerlady wrote: post #43
twoodfin wrote: post #15

Modulo Anthropic messing with the model for load mitigation, I wonder how stable this result is. 1,000 pings, how many correctly ponged?

is pong an actual term? If so I might've found a CS term better than wyde (2 bytes)

2 bytes is a short…

Re: How Fast Does Claude, Acting as a User Space IP Stack, Respond to Pings?

#49

Post by twoodfin »

jeremyjh wrote: post #7

Perhaps one day, all network services will be provided by LLMs natively. Truly, that would be a day in the future.

I’m sorry people aren’t getting it, or are so committed to downvoting humor here they’re tagging the good stuff.

Re: How Fast Does Claude, Acting as a User Space IP Stack, Respond to Pings?

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Post by tekno45 »

self_awareness wrote: post #42
wolttam wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok but hating a guy playing with an LLM is a bit extreme. These things are in many ways still just toys (toys that are becoming increasingly useful). People almost certainly send dumber stuff to Claude than this, and just don’t write blog posts about it. You could try other providers if Anthropic is too slow/limited, there’s some good alternatives. (And your anger should probably be directed at Anthropic who hasn’t p…

I'm not angry, I'm just disappointed. Hating is just terminology I've used to reply to the parent poster. Personally I don't think hating anything will solve any problem. True, people send dumber stuff to LLM, but some of them have the decency not to brag about it. But if they brag, then the common sense I imagine would be to tell them they are currently conducting a shitty thing. Yet on HN over 100 people told him t…

Talking about "We have brains and don't offload your thinking" while admonishing someone because you think you would have used their tokens better is wild.
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