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I didn't think I could get addicted to weed

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Re: I didn't think I could get addicted to weed

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Listing the three most addictive, dependency-inducing and mortally dangerous substances used by humans to temporarily achieve a stress-free mental state doesn’t mean cannabis belongs in the same neighborhood.

Simply denying regulatory authority over an intoxicant, as proposed by the devil’s advocate argument I replied to, is obviously incorrect: all intoxicants are intoxicating and intoxication carries a risk of addiction. Where to set regulatory hurdles versus illegalities is much less obvious, and worth considering, but it’s never ‘fully unregulated’ in a prosocial society; if one provides a substance of altered mind, t…

It’s not so simple as ”intoxicant” being addictive.

Many ”intoxicants” are inherently not addictive and may even help getting rid of other addictions (ayahuasca / DMT / other psychedelics).

Many things are not ”intoxicants” yet are addictive.

Addiction is a feature of human physiology. More specifically, FosB turning into delta-FosB seems to be the generic marker of any type of addiction, and it directly drives addictive behaviors when overexpressed in the prefrontal cortex.

The physiology is a result of millions of years of evolutionary adaptation, and while it must have correlated with evolutionary fitness at some point(s) and in some scenario(s), modern humans are surrounded by so many novel stimuli and ways of self-stimulation that we simply have not yet had the time to physiologically adapt to the situation where some of our addictions are not actually conferring true increases in our evolutionary fitness.

Re: I didn't think I could get addicted to weed

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post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Too bad we live in the opposite of a "prosocial society"

That our society’s economic strategy is effectively “how close can we skirt the line to serfdom and slavery” has no bearing on the devil’s advocate proposal of wholly-unregulated intoxicants that I’m replying to. The state will tend to deregulate so long as the intoxicant leaves workers inefficiently functional when they’re at work, but to strictly regulate when it impacts the job market; yet, neither of these tenden…

Making substances completely illegal is the exact opposite of regulation, though.

Re: I didn't think I could get addicted to weed

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I hate this narrative and hope people who push it have to be sober 24/7 for the rest of their lives. People will take this and use it to harass others with real world consequences. I used to respect The Guardian until it became a platform for Reddit journalism. Its now the favorite for conservative liberals.

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Re: I didn't think I could get addicted to weed

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That our society’s economic strategy is effectively “how close can we skirt the line to serfdom and slavery” has no bearing on the devil’s advocate proposal of wholly-unregulated intoxicants that I’m replying to. The state will tend to deregulate so long as the intoxicant leaves workers inefficiently functional when they’re at work, but to strictly regulate when it impacts the job market; yet, neither of these tenden…

Making substances completely illegal is the exact opposite of regulation, though.

I can construct many possible theories that underlie your claim but it would be rude for me to put words in your mouth and then reply to them. You’re welcome to offer an explanation if you’d like a second try. Though, I wouldn’t reply to ‘regulation has a special label at this one prohibitive extreme in specific’, which may save you a followup at least!

Re: I didn't think I could get addicted to weed

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Making substances completely illegal is the exact opposite of regulation, though.

I can construct many possible theories that underlie your claim but it would be rude for me to put words in your mouth and then reply to them. You’re welcome to offer an explanation if you’d like a second try. Though, I wouldn’t reply to ‘regulation has a special label at this one prohibitive extreme in specific’, which may save you a followup at least!

You can’t regulate the quality of things you don’t produce (or allow to be produced). You can’t regulate the sales of things you don’t sell (or allow to be sold).

Re: I didn't think I could get addicted to weed

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people think you can't get addicted to weed? What do they think potheads were

I have wine pretty much every week and I wouldn't say I'm addicted to it. Addiction doesn't just mean you do it a lot.

having one or two glasses of wine a few times a week is not enough to trigger any physical addiction. When looking at both pot and alcohol addicts I would assume abusing daily would be a requirement
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