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Re: Proton Meet

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Post by nozzlegear » Thu, May 07, 2026, 2:51 AM UTC

mghackerlady wrote: post #32

buran77 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

American English allows the single l form, like traveling or modeling.

well to be fair american english is just a bunch of typos someone made standardised on because he didn't like the british

Standardized*

/s

Edit: I thought you were joking and that the answer was more like printing presses and a lack of an official "standard English" in the 1700s/1800s, but it turns out the answer really was closer to what you said. Noah Webster deliberately decided to make American English diverge from British English when he wrote his dictionary.

Re: Proton Meet

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Post by gnabgib » Thu, May 07, 2026, 2:56 AM UTC

mitchsayre wrote: post #39

The main thing stopping me from using Proton Meet is I don't like that the booking pages that come with Proton Calendar only show in 24-hour time.

You're misunderstanding how Pollen works https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48039412

Re: Proton Meet

#43

Post by vivzkestrel » Thu, May 07, 2026, 4:13 AM UTC

- stupid question: someone is asking me to prove that google, microsoft and zoom are tracking

- how do I prove that they are actually not privacy friendly?

Re: Proton Meet

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Post by latentsea » Thu, May 07, 2026, 4:16 AM UTC

weezing wrote: post #9

StrangeSound wrote: post #8

I wish Proton would focus on all of the missing features within their existing product suite before creating even more offerings to maintain

Still waiting for Drive for Linux.

So much this.

Re: Proton Meet

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Post by EGreg » Thu, May 07, 2026, 5:03 AM UTC

I like Proton a lot.

But isn’t WebRTC already trivially end to end encrypted?

We built an entire encrypted and decentralized peer to peer videoconferencing and livestreaming system years ago, and made it open source so anyone can host it: https://community.qbix.com/t/teleconferencing-and-live-broad...

Re: Proton Meet

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Post by ekjhgkejhgk » Thu, May 07, 2026, 5:16 AM UTC

StrangeSound wrote: post #8

I wish Proton would focus on all of the missing features within their existing product suite before creating even more offerings to maintain

Wanna tell us what are the missing features on their existing products?

Re: Proton Meet

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Post by ekjhgkejhgk » Thu, May 07, 2026, 5:18 AM UTC

I would be curious to understand whether they implemented this from scratch or whether they got a whitelabel solution from someone else (and if so, who).

I was shocked recently when I looked into this to find out the number of solutions out there.

Re: Proton Meet

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Post by svnt » Thu, May 07, 2026, 6:25 AM UTC

vivzkestrel wrote: post #43

- stupid question: someone is asking me to prove that google, microsoft and zoom are tracking - how do I prove that they are actually not privacy friendly?

There is a history of international legal action as a result of them violating privacy laws, nevermind being privacy friendly:

France’s data protection regulator (CNIL) fined Google €325 million in 2025 for displaying ads between Gmail messages without consent and for placing cookies during account creation without consent. This is on top of prior fines of €100 million in 2020 and €150 million in 2021 for cookie violations, so this is a documented pattern.

The Dutch government commissioned Data Protection Impact Assessments (DPIAs) on Office/Microsoft 365. The 2018 report found Microsoft collected 23,000–25,000 different telemetry events from Office and called it “large scale and covert collection of personal data”

The FTC went after Zoom in 2020. The complaint alleged that since at least 2016, Zoom misled users by claiming “end-to-end, 256-bit encryption” when it actually provided a lower level of security, and Zoom saved the cryptographic keys that would allow it to access the content of customers’ meetings.

You could also just go read their own policy documents, or ask AI to explain what is possible under those to you if they are too dense.

Re: Proton Meet

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Post by port11 » Thu, May 07, 2026, 6:51 AM UTC

setsewerd wrote: post #23

StrangeSound wrote: post #8

I wish Proton would focus on all of the missing features within their existing product suite before creating even more offerings to maintain

I might be an outlier here in caring about this product but I really want Proton Docs to get optimized better, it takes way too long to load. Google docs may not be private but it takes 11-second load time for a page is a lot of friction in 2026, no matter how secure your product is.

Could it be you’re using Chrome with the offline Docs extension? On Brave and without the extension, Docs isn’t nearly as fast for me — even if Proton remains slow.

I also wish I could afford Proton as a non-pro user…

Re: Proton Meet

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Post by port11 » Thu, May 07, 2026, 6:55 AM UTC

vivzkestrel wrote: post #43

- stupid question: someone is asking me to prove that google, microsoft and zoom are tracking - how do I prove that they are actually not privacy friendly?

Sibling comment does a great job, but I just wanted to add that their Terms and Privacy Policy are simply not compatible with privacy-friendliness.

I used to analyse PPs to detect usage of data brokers, and I’ll confidently say that these 2 have some of the worst policies out there, although less obvious companies such as Netflix and Spotify also had appalling conditions.

If a policy is compatible with data brokerage, you can very well assume they do it, and that means they’ll share your data and get shared data about you in return. But hey, “we don’t SELL your data!”