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Open Design: Use Your Coding Agent as a Design Engine

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Re: Open Design: Use Your Coding Agent as a Design Engine

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Post by jshaqaw »

QuantumNomad_ wrote: post #32
jshaqaw wrote: post #26

The inevitable outcome here is that designed materials become so generic and infinitely produceable that they become worthless background noise. We are well on the way to that path. For almost all materials the only value of getting a seriously produced work of design (i.e., the "make me a magazine-style pitch deck for our seed round" this design engine mentions) is a signaling function that some combination of effor…

> The purpose of making a powerpoint deck before a meeting is rarely the value of a deck. Rather it is signaling that someone spent some time actually organizing their thoughts instead of bloviating spontaneously. > All of this is lost with AI led design. Producing designed artifacts are free and instant. Yeah you will impress the old folks for a year or so who haven't caught onto the joke. I was at an AI/LLM themed…

I beg people to send me their prompts rather than the stochastic text expanded drivel they send me as memos/plans/etc... Massive waste of my time responding to ghosts - actually taking 10 pages seriously that often the "author" has barely read. I'd much rather get some unstructured bullet points if those are actually a person's ideas.

I love AI. Used well it's a massive enhancer to make things. But yeah whats the value of a presentation that the presenter is also seeing for the first time. Not just zero. Since it wasted everyone's time and bandwidth the value is negative.

Re: Open Design: Use Your Coding Agent as a Design Engine

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Post by xienze »

jerojero wrote: post #37
QuantumNomad_ wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The purpose of making a powerpoint deck before a meeting is rarely the value of a deck. Rather it is signaling that someone spent some time actually organizing their thoughts instead of bloviating spontaneously. > All of this is lost with AI led design. Producing designed artifacts are free and instant. Yeah you will impress the old folks for a year or so who haven't caught onto the joke. I was at an AI/LLM themed…

Obviously if you make the slides yourself then you'd know the content well. The way of using these tools is not to one-shot your slide deck (unless you have plenty time to learn the content) but give it a base product you've already worked on and ask it to make it pretty, interesting, etc. and perhaps make small changes to the content which you'd review and learn. You can probably use a knife as a fork but it wouldn'…

> The way of using these tools is not to one-shot your slide deck

This line of thinking IMO is hopelessly naive. Yes, the responsible way to use AI and perhaps the way _you_ use it is to do some formatting/cleaning up/enhancement of slides that you primarily authored yourself. The reality is that _most_ people are using and will use AI as a way to breeze through as much work as possible either out of laziness or pressure and their "reviews" will primarily consist of "LGTM." Which is going to lead to an explosion of "did you even read this?" or "did you even test this?"-style disasters.

Re: Open Design: Use Your Coding Agent as a Design Engine

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Post by jshaqaw »

danielbln wrote: post #31
jshaqaw wrote: post #26

The inevitable outcome here is that designed materials become so generic and infinitely produceable that they become worthless background noise. We are well on the way to that path. For almost all materials the only value of getting a seriously produced work of design (i.e., the "make me a magazine-style pitch deck for our seed round" this design engine mentions) is a signaling function that some combination of effor…

I don't disagree, but I'm not sure I see the point you're trying to make.

Maybe ask your LLM to explain it?

Re: Open Design: Use Your Coding Agent as a Design Engine

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Post by exe34 »

nilirl wrote: post #36
exe34 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The creating part still remains because it's intrinsic but the sharing part feels discouraging now. Why? Is a chair that you made with your own hands not as valuable to you because somebody else got one from Ikea? Would you not show it to your friends for this reason?

Why would you pick an example that does not have AI as a competitor? If people could generate an infinite variety of chairs in a few seconds, than yes, my sharing would be discouraged.

I can't draw. I'm learning to draw. I really don't give a flying toss if AI can generate pencil drawings of my loved ones. They'll know I made the effort myself.

Re: Open Design: Use Your Coding Agent as a Design Engine

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Post by ori_b »

jstummbillig wrote: post #25
ricardobeat wrote: post #3

The README is unnerving. Do people really see the Claude-salesman style of writing as something normal? On the other hand, I should be thanking Anthropic for making it so easy to spot, they might have done this intentionally.

It's midness. People don't find it good, it's just less effort to meh it.

It's bad, not mid. And it's insulting to the reader.

Re: Open Design: Use Your Coding Agent as a Design Engine

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Post by ori_b »

orphea wrote: post #13
nilirl wrote: post #9

How does a human designer even compete? I just looked at all the demos and they look beautiful. I hand designed my site https://www.nair.sh/ and it feels like it doesn't even compare. Sure, there's some judgment as to what design is appropriate in a given situation, but it just feels like so much harder for a human's design to feel valuable now.

How do human artists compete with AI-gen images?

Yes, we're building a dystopia where AIs do the work humans enjoy, and humans get to hold on to drudgery. What's not to like?

Re: Open Design: Use Your Coding Agent as a Design Engine

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

faangguyindia wrote: post #24

Do people design UIs first? I just basically define what I need in a UI in plain text when the prototype is built. I extract the repeating units, then add design to it.

It depends on what you’re doing. If you’re working on a product like Slack, for example, the right question will often be not what UI your feature needs but what feature your UX idea needs.

Re: Open Design: Use Your Coding Agent as a Design Engine

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Post by sumeno »

thrance wrote: post #10
bastac wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do people really buy stars for github? Would explain some of these crazy growths

Apparently so. Posted 12 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47831621

Makes me wonder if there is a secret HN upvote economy too.

Edit: yep, quick search turned up a site to buy upvotes. All these vibe coded slop projects getting to the front page make sense now

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