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Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by gchamonlive »

realusername wrote: post #39
gchamonlive wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's the same reason why MacOS and iOS degraded a lot in terms of UX the past decade. The focus of Apple shifted towards hardware independence. The 2010s was marked by Intel's lazy product lineup, year after year pumping rehashes of older products, iterating on top of their 14nm lithography with increasingly minor improvements on its architecture until AMD overcame them. In the process, Apple's partnership wi…

I always found that Apple had pretty mediocre software qualify, it's always been a very strong hardware company first and foremost. They have great kernel, drivers and low level engineering but the stack above that has a lot of questionable stuff.

I don't dispute that, but Apple made its business on the premise of being the best in the business in terms of UX. Note though that you can have great UX powered by mediocre software, so those aren't mutually exclusive.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by jedisct1 »

internet2000 wrote: post #7

> Apple runs on Anthropic at this point. Anthropic is powering a lot of the stuff Apple is doing internally in terms of product development, a lot of their internal tools…They have custom versions of Claude running on their own servers internally. --Mark Gurman, Bloomberg https://x.com/tbpn/status/2016911797656367199

> They have custom versions of Claude running on their own servers internally.

This is the important point.

Sending their internal code, documentation, secret tokens, etc. to Anthropic would be completely irresponsible.

But if they are running the models on their own servers, why not!

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by wenc »

acdha wrote: post #34
stefan_ wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay, but why is the Siri team sitting out transformers. I really wanna move past the „Dragon Naturally Speaking“ experience with a bolted on decision tree.

Who’s doing it better? I have yet to hear from a Google or Amazon user who has a transformatively better experience, and I think that’s why they haven’t jumped so far because they have hundreds of millions of users who have daily habits that they don’t want to lightly disturb.

Right now Alexa+ and Gemini are objectively better.

The best is ChatGPT voice mode. It understands non English words and accents amazingly well, and even though the LLM model isn’t the full fledged one, I can have deep conversations with it for an hour without it missing a beat.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by caymanjim »

klustregrif wrote: post #30
neko_ranger wrote: post #9

So much FUD (and bot replies dogpiling on?) in that thread. It's just a file that specifies some structure for the project. Nothing super secret.

It’s not super secret no. It’s just embarrassing they they don’t have instructions in their AI agents coding and pushing deployments to not push the Claude.md files. It demonstrates that they haven’t fed their AI prompts through AI yet cause it would hav added a clause for that.

Have you never used Claude? It regularly ignores directives, no matter how they're worded or how many times they're repeated. It's also hierarchal. Org-wide rules would be in a higher-level directory than repo rules or component rules. This is obviously just a tiny snippet of prompts.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by dgellow »

ramon156 wrote: post #14

Unrelated: Yuck. a lot of those replies have LLM smells. Do people love being a hollow puppet for LLMs to fill in? Have people lost their identity?

Yep, path of least resistance unfortunately. Any recommendations that isn’t discord where to have meaningful online interactions with actual humans?

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by rvnx »

engineer_22 wrote: post #38
einsteinx2 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It is no secret that Apple operates with hundreds of siloed teams in order to maintain individual domain expertise. The teams then come together in a collaborative manner to bring together the final products. Having worked there this is a perfect description of the organization from my experience. > So yes, it is likely true that SOME teams use SOME LLM for SOME tasks. It is a viable argument from R&D and other per…

Risk of embarrassment is too great to be vibe coding, apple's brand is TRUST and people don't trust AI... A slip like this erodes their brand

Not really, almost all active software developers use AI nowadays.

  The research surveyed 121.000 developers across 450+ companies. A striking 92.6% of them use an AI coding assistant at least once a month, and roughly 75% use one weekly
It's weird to believe that large corporations should be ashamed to use AI.

It's a standard engineering practice, otherwise it's like if you refuse autocomplete because autocomplete is not right 100% of the time.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by turtlesdown11 »

piker wrote: post #12
internet2000 wrote: post #7

> Apple runs on Anthropic at this point. Anthropic is powering a lot of the stuff Apple is doing internally in terms of product development, a lot of their internal tools…They have custom versions of Claude running on their own servers internally. --Mark Gurman, Bloomberg https://x.com/tbpn/status/2016911797656367199

I'm suspicious of that take from Mark Gurman. That's a lot of detail around pricing and "holding Apple over a barrel" as relates to the Siri deal that seems like a nice PR spin from Anthropic. Anthropic probably couldn't give the uptime guarantees that Google can, right?

Gurman is clearly Apple's preferred go to for leaking info

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

acdha wrote: post #34
stefan_ wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay, but why is the Siri team sitting out transformers. I really wanna move past the „Dragon Naturally Speaking“ experience with a bolted on decision tree.

Who’s doing it better? I have yet to hear from a Google or Amazon user who has a transformatively better experience, and I think that’s why they haven’t jumped so far because they have hundreds of millions of users who have daily habits that they don’t want to lightly disturb.

Plus, if someone else does it better (or different), I bet they've got a team and technology at a 90% done state waiting to jump on it, pick it apart and make it better. I don't think they're not doing anything.
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