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Opus 4.7 knows the real Kelsey

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Re: Opus 4.7 knows the real Kelsey

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Post by rdevilla »

The joke's on you all for willingly posting this content online for it to later be harvested by AI.

Nobody is forcing you to use these systems. The hackers have always said this moment, or something like it, would come, from beneath their canopies of tin foil. I've posted almost nothing online - not under pseudonyms nor real names - for over a decade. I sat on this HN username for almost 12 years before making a single post - and now HN forms the overwhelming majority of my port 443 footprint, where I state up front that everything is now associated to my real name.

Complete magick is possible when you simply refuse to participate in the things that society has tacitly assumed everybody does.

Re: Opus 4.7 knows the real Kelsey

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Post by post-it »

mikestorrent wrote: post #22
CTDOCodebases wrote: post #18

Maybe it’s time to start running a local model with a browser extension to defend against this type of stuff. Remember how the TrueCrypt project shut down shortly before a join goverment/university paper was released about code stylometry? I guess LLMs will be employed as a defence against that type of thing.

How does that defend against something having trained on a corpus of your own previous writing?

I think what they're saying is, run a local model to transform all your comments before you post them.

Re: Opus 4.7 knows the real Kelsey

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Post by rexpop »

oceanplexian wrote: post #34

> That includes gay people like me, who could hardly have admitted under our names to how we lived our lives for most of America’s history, as well as many other groups with minoritarian lifestyles While the points made are completely valid I want to point out that the statement of "Hey, by the way, first let me talk about my sexuality" lowers the quality of dialog a significant degree. 31 million people in America a…

> people with a certain minority lifestyle

That phrase is a dehumanizing, Nazi-style talking point: it frames a group of people as a “lifestyle” problem instead of as human beings, which is a common setup for stigma and persecution. Nazi ideology repeatedly used this kind of language to normalize hatred and make targeted groups seem unnatural or dangerous.

Calling people a “minority lifestyle” is not neutral wording; it reduces identity to something frivolous or deviant. Extremist movements have historically used similar framing to make prejudice sound reasonable and to recruit others into it.

Re: Opus 4.7 knows the real Kelsey

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Post by kelseyfrog »

vslira wrote: post #38

Hm, that’s a multinomial classification with a very high cardinality. It’s really weird it works. I’m sure it does as the author states, but for how many authors (out of the whole web) does this work?

Sure the cardinality is high, but the model isn't using a uniform prior. What do you suppose all the the values in each of the terms are, P(Text sample | Kelsey Piper) * P(Text sample) / P(Kelsey Piper)?

Re: Opus 4.7 knows the real Kelsey

#46

Post by vlovich123 »

oceanplexian wrote: post #34

> That includes gay people like me, who could hardly have admitted under our names to how we lived our lives for most of America’s history, as well as many other groups with minoritarian lifestyles While the points made are completely valid I want to point out that the statement of "Hey, by the way, first let me talk about my sexuality" lowers the quality of dialog a significant degree. 31 million people in America a…

About 68% support gay marriage yet one political party keeps trying to roll it back.

Similar support for abortion being legal yet that was rolled back not too long ago.

Just because a topic has wide support doesn’t mean it’s not under attack and worth defending.

Re: Opus 4.7 knows the real Kelsey

#48

Post by phalangion »

rdevilla wrote: post #41

The joke's on you all for willingly posting this content online for it to later be harvested by AI. Nobody is forcing you to use these systems. The hackers have always said this moment, or something like it, would come, from beneath their canopies of tin foil. I've posted almost nothing online - not under pseudonyms nor real names - for over a decade. I sat on this HN username for almost 12 years before making a sing…

How do you propose a journalist work without posting their writing online?

Re: Opus 4.7 knows the real Kelsey

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Post by ngriffiths »

oceanplexian wrote: post #34

> That includes gay people like me, who could hardly have admitted under our names to how we lived our lives for most of America’s history, as well as many other groups with minoritarian lifestyles While the points made are completely valid I want to point out that the statement of "Hey, by the way, first let me talk about my sexuality" lowers the quality of dialog a significant degree. 31 million people in America a…

Isn't the super dramatic shift in public opinion on this topic the exact thing that makes it such a good example? Isn't the point that anonymity is not considered a universal right yet it is obviously a good thing once considering this example and others? This is a super weird and wrong way to read it.

Re: Opus 4.7 knows the real Kelsey

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Post by jayd16 »

oceanplexian wrote: post #34

> That includes gay people like me, who could hardly have admitted under our names to how we lived our lives for most of America’s history, as well as many other groups with minoritarian lifestyles While the points made are completely valid I want to point out that the statement of "Hey, by the way, first let me talk about my sexuality" lowers the quality of dialog a significant degree. 31 million people in America a…

I can't read this any other way than, "Do people really need to talk about their own top of mind problems when I don't identify with that?"
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