Really well written, technical post. Good read.
How ChatGPT serves ads
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#42I see OpenAI making a significantly larger amount from defense contracts than from advertisements pumped into chats. So I wonder whose bright idea it was to create a public perception risk.
Maybe the negative press from ads is better than the negative press from powering murderbots?
Bad press from a contract like that happens once and everyone forgets. Ads are in your face everytime
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#43The ads are in the free tier and the new ad-supported $8/month plan. Every time this comes up there are comments assuming that ads are being injected into the normal plans, but these are for the free tier and the new Go plan which warns you that it includes ads when you sign up.
Would require a lot of training to implement ads blended into convo and not have it be too obvious/ eff up the results?
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#44Not to me they don’t, cause I canceled my account and stopped using their products when they made the announcement.
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#45Since they are served as distinct events then I would think they should be easy to block. Once the ads are injected directly into the main response is when things get interesting.
> Once the ads are injected directly into the main response is when things get interesting.
This would be where you post-process the LLM response with a second LLM to remove the ad..
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is there a library of good tools for LLMs to call? I have to imagine the bot-detection avoidance mechanisms are a major engineering effort and not likely to work out of the box with a simple harness and random local LLM.
Tavily, Exa, Firecrawl, Perplexity, and Linkup are all tools for agents to search the web. I’ve been building a harness the past few months and supports them all out of the box with an API key.
Kagi also has an API. People who hate ads are probably the same folk that should be paying for Kagi. That's the sane alternative world where companies respect their users.
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#47I'd always thought that ChatGPT ads would be indistinguishable from actual content.
this would be a breach of trust and short term would work great but long term is too detrimental. same thing could've been said for search results, so at least that part is still "safe".
Long term all of the major LLM platforms will have invisible ads, influences, and propaganda woven into the content. The temptation will be irresistible for these companies.
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
this would be a breach of trust and short term would work great but long term is too detrimental. same thing could've been said for search results, so at least that part is still "safe".
O you think trust matters? This is capitalism not trustism.
Long term retention is built on brand trust and usability, then ensh*ttification happens.
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
this would be a breach of trust and short term would work great but long term is too detrimental. same thing could've been said for search results, so at least that part is still "safe".
O you think trust matters? This is capitalism not trustism.
No, this is late stage capitalism without regulation.
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#50Remember that ads are the "last resort" for OpenAI, and they're doing this despite the fact that it's "uniquely unsettling", according to Sam. Was he lying, or has OpenAI given up hope that this train wreck works economically without enshittification? Neither option is good, but I don't really see a third.
The ads are only for the free and $8/month plans. They basically added an ad-supported super discount level that you can ignore if you’re paying for the normal plans.
But the fact that they've added an ad-supported tier this early into their life as a company means they're desperate for revenue. You start inserting ads when you're optimizing for profit, not when you're still growing. It took how long for Netflix to introduce an ad-supported plan?