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Re: Clay PCB Tutorial

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Post by setr »

3form wrote: post #36
fxtentacle wrote: post #17

I truly don’t understand what the hope to gain from self-classifying this is “feminist”. “FEMINIST HACKING: BUILDING CIRCUITS AS AN ARTISTIC PRACTICE – an international art-based research project financed by the Austrian Science Fund (FWF)” Doesn’t that kind of invite the worst type of trolls? They seem to imply that feminist = artistically produced, as opposed to professionally produced PCBs. So masculine = professi…

What are you asking about exactly? About classifying the project as feminist or the perceived feminist = artistic implication? You start with this: >I truly don’t understand what the hope to gain from self-classifying this is “feminist”. To which I say - why not? Is this the problem?

> To which I say - why not?

Because it creates weird, presumably unintentional implications. One such implication:

> They seem to imply that feminist = artistically produced, as opposed to professionally produced PCBs. So masculine = professional? But clearly that wasn’t their intention?

Re: Clay PCB Tutorial

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Post by JCTheDenthog »

oulipo2 wrote: post #30
JCTheDenthog wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And it's taxpayer funded, to boot. I definitely wouldn't be happy as an Austrian if I knew my taxes were going to something like this (meanwhile hobbyists elsewhere do projects like this on their own dime).

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Re: Clay PCB Tutorial

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Post by jedimastert »

skybrian wrote: post #10

Interesting experiment, but on the other hand, maybe 3D printing would have less emissions than an open fire? I’ve not tried this, but it sounds like a good way to get fast turnaround for very simple circuits: https://bsky.app/profile/castpixel.bsky.social/post/3mf52azn...

That's a cool project, I've actually considered something somewhere but never put the energy into actually doing the work.

I'm guessing that the issue here might have been that copper as a metal is kind of difficult to trace the source to ethically?

Also, with this method each 3D print is a new instance of using plastic, where with clay you only use plastic once

Re: Clay PCB Tutorial

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Post by kennywinker »

Brian_K_White wrote: post #22
amelius wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How would you handle LQFP or BGA packages?

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How well did Albert Hanson’s flat foil board handle BGAs?

Instead of looking for flaws, try looking for the insight. I’m reminded of this blog post that was on hn recently https://scottlawsonbc.com/post/shooting-down-ideas

Re: Clay PCB Tutorial

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Post by jedimastert »

chasil wrote: post #15

I am wondering what of this could be used in high-volume industrial processes. "We had the privilege of spending two days with this skilled craftsman, learning how to identify and collect the clay, and how to model and fire it using old, dry branches collected from the forest ground."

I think the entire point of the project and potentially the research group is looking at manufacturing while explicitly/intentionally steering away from high volume and industrial processes.

Re: Clay PCB Tutorial

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Post by jedimastert »

jevndev wrote: post #34

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Gonna +1 what the other person said, but also this research group appears to be like intentionally focused on hacking and technology ethics from a feminist perspective sooooo like maybe it's just not your cup of tea to begin with?

Either way, it's probably that no one cares about your opinions on credibility

Re: Clay PCB Tutorial

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Post by skybrian »

jedimastert wrote: post #28
skybrian wrote: post #10

Interesting experiment, but on the other hand, maybe 3D printing would have less emissions than an open fire? I’ve not tried this, but it sounds like a good way to get fast turnaround for very simple circuits: https://bsky.app/profile/castpixel.bsky.social/post/3mf52azn...

CO2 emissions from burning wood (and charcoal) can considered net-zero by some (I'm not really interested in arguing one way or the other) because all of the CO2 being released was initially trapped out of the air by the plant, not releasing "new" carbon that was initially trapped underground

There’s more to pollution than CO2. You’re polluting the neighborhood with smoke, which is bad for lungs. Maybe okay in a rural area if neighbors are far away.

Re: Clay PCB Tutorial

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Post by fwipsy »

lucid-dev wrote: post #40

New generations have new language and are attempting to define themselves through their usage of certain terminology and re-framing of words (Arduino -> Arduina). This isn't satire and it doesn't have to be dismissed. While I don't find increasing the definition and perceived uniqueness of one's personality and identity is necessarily a positive social thing, it's pretty much the most common thing in today's world -…

What date is that? Petrochemicals aren't all stored in a big tank somewhere. My model is that there are many marginal sources which are not cost-effective to exploit, but which could be exploited with better technology or at a higher cost. I do not think we will ever extract all of these; instead, the cost of extraction will increase gradually, shifting incentives towards other energy sources.

I don't think anyone really knows what the future will look like.

Re: Clay PCB Tutorial

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Post by skybrian »

amelius wrote: post #33
skybrian wrote: post #10

Interesting experiment, but on the other hand, maybe 3D printing would have less emissions than an open fire? I’ve not tried this, but it sounds like a good way to get fast turnaround for very simple circuits: https://bsky.app/profile/castpixel.bsky.social/post/3mf52azn...

That link sounds interesting but I can't open it :(

Seems temporary, try again.
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