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Re: Issue links now open in a popup

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Post by codazoda »

willio58 wrote: post #7

It’s always been interesting to me that multi-million and even billion dollar tech companies don’t have perfect websites in terms of UX. Just last night I was helping my GF set up an ad for her job on LinkedIn. The UX was terrible. Like awful and basic things like save and exit were completely broken. Meanwhile LinkedIn makes what percentage of their revenue through ads? Same with google ads. It’s like these products…

I would argue that senior engineers, of which I am one, are more of the problem than junior. We build fancy custom components when we should be using the existing ones.

Yes, the (senior) product and design people are part of the problem too.

We need to build simpler software that works.

Re: Issue links now open in a popup

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Post by crtasm »

chuckadams wrote: post #10
willio58 wrote: post #7

It’s always been interesting to me that multi-million and even billion dollar tech companies don’t have perfect websites in terms of UX. Just last night I was helping my GF set up an ad for her job on LinkedIn. The UX was terrible. Like awful and basic things like save and exit were completely broken. Meanwhile LinkedIn makes what percentage of their revenue through ads? Same with google ads. It’s like these products…

I don't think there is such a thing as perfect UX and I'm not asking for it. I just want them to stop making it worse . Seriously tho, why isn't this something that a browser can do? Why can't I just split a tab and say all links from the left tab open in the right? Why not be able to scroll through history as a list of such panes like a smalltalk browser or file explorer on a mac? Maybe even a history tree, able to…

Split tabs are now in:

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/split-view-firefox

Re: Issue links now open in a popup

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Post by re-thc »

willio58 wrote: post #7

It’s always been interesting to me that multi-million and even billion dollar tech companies don’t have perfect websites in terms of UX. Just last night I was helping my GF set up an ad for her job on LinkedIn. The UX was terrible. Like awful and basic things like save and exit were completely broken. Meanwhile LinkedIn makes what percentage of their revenue through ads? Same with google ads. It’s like these products…

> that multi-million and even billion dollar tech companies don’t have perfect websites in terms of UX

I would have thought it'd be the opposite.

It implies have hundreds of teams and UI / UX often is "scaled" in weird ways where everyone does their own thing and becomes a giant mess.

Everything is "correct" when you slice it enough. So from team A's perspective this might be a gain. When you are a part of a team you only see and own this part. That's your KPI.

Unless there's real and working governance (often very very hard) then it's not happening. To get that governance you need company direction and company buy-in that stops managers trying to push new features fast to infinity.

Re: Issue links now open in a popup

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Post by giancarlostoro »

willio58 wrote: post #7

It’s always been interesting to me that multi-million and even billion dollar tech companies don’t have perfect websites in terms of UX. Just last night I was helping my GF set up an ad for her job on LinkedIn. The UX was terrible. Like awful and basic things like save and exit were completely broken. Meanwhile LinkedIn makes what percentage of their revenue through ads? Same with google ads. It’s like these products…

Something about software engineering has gone wrong nobody thinks much about UX they blindly try to give functionality to the business/ customer requesting it but without considering whats already available and how to maintain status quo as much as possible. But theres also room to make things simple and intuitive.

Google released an AI music studio and their primary UI is literally an AI chat window. I absolutely hate UIs like that.

Re: Issue links now open in a popup

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Post by glaslong »

willio58 wrote: post #7

It’s always been interesting to me that multi-million and even billion dollar tech companies don’t have perfect websites in terms of UX. Just last night I was helping my GF set up an ad for her job on LinkedIn. The UX was terrible. Like awful and basic things like save and exit were completely broken. Meanwhile LinkedIn makes what percentage of their revenue through ads? Same with google ads. It’s like these products…

The larger the company, the more it will be designed according to internal incentives, and less by people actually using their own product.

Re: Issue links now open in a popup

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Post by 6031769 »

Polizeiposaune wrote: post #27
simonw wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

UX is really, really hard - and for some reason still not fully respected as a discipline.

Fast track to loss of respect: I visit a site/launch the app I always use with the intent of getting something done quickly, and I find that since the last time I used it someone's rearranged the deck chairs and hidden or removed the functionality I need. Something that should take a minute or two suddenly becomes rage-inducing and eats an entire day.

Or the feature is still there but they've renamed it to something totally unrelated which you would never guess. Honestly, it's like they are actively trying to lose users.

The most depressing email to receive is "Good news! We've improved our website ..."

Re: Issue links now open in a popup

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Post by janaagaard »

It sounds like the root issue is that some people prefer opening new tabs while others prefer staying in the same browser window. I surfed the web when all links, even across websites always stayed in the same browser window, and I still prefer that. But I can understand that some people prefer opening new browser tabs instead.

I think web browsers should revisit how they handle links with target=_blank/_top, and show different cursers when hovering and let users customize the default behavior.

Re: Issue links now open in a popup

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Post by naikrovek »

This is why I kind of think that UI/UX should be handled by normal developers who do other things as well. People whose sole job is UI/UX must do things like this in order to stay employed, normal developers don’t. So teach normal developers how to think about UI and UX so that changes stop happening solely because a specialist needs to change something that does not need changing.

Sorry, UI/UX people, but if you were proceeding towards some finely crafted experience, you’d have honed in on it by now. You would have a set of rules that could be followed to present information in both a pleasing way and a useful way simultaneously and everyone would know how things work because everyone followed the same rules. None of that has happened. You are just changing things to change them.

Re: Issue links now open in a popup

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Post by mnhnthrow34 »

janaagaard wrote: post #48

It sounds like the root issue is that some people prefer opening new tabs while others prefer staying in the same browser window. I surfed the web when all links, even across websites always stayed in the same browser window, and I still prefer that. But I can understand that some people prefer opening new browser tabs instead. I think web browsers should revisit how they handle links with target=_blank/_top, and sho…

This is not about new tabs. It refers to an in-page panel that displays the content of the linked issue instead of navigating to it.
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