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Re: Asahi Linux Progress Linux 7.0

#41
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When I think about it, I don't understand why Apple wouldn't want to help this effort and just provide all the documentation. All the classic reasons ("competitive advantage", "secrets", etc) do not hold water in this day and age.

Little to no monetary benefit, hardware changes now need to be documented for Linux, loudest and most critical users but smallest volume.

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Linux 7.0

#43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, knowing what I know about marcan, the decision was probably the result of an overwhelming/strong emotional reaction. Not to just shit all over him or anything, but it really sucks to see someone who is genuinely top-ten-on-earth when it comes to "real hacking" struggle so much with socialisation and mental health.

It is weird to blame the victim for reacting to being harassed by a mob. That is a normal thing to have a reaction to. Perhaps rather than blaming people's social skills and mental health, we should instead blame the culture that normalises harassing people on the internet, even to the point of suicide (as happened in byuu's case). You are basically advocating that it is better for individuals to change to accept a s…

I'm genuinely unfamiliar of the harassment campaign that HN launched against him.

(I am familiar with some comments debating the validity of Byuu/Near's gender identity, and marcan's extremely strong reaction to that, but no actual harassment campaigns)

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Linux 7.0

#44
post #4

When I think about it, I don't understand why Apple wouldn't want to help this effort and just provide all the documentation. All the classic reasons ("competitive advantage", "secrets", etc) do not hold water in this day and age.

> I don't understand We really need to retire this phrase, it’s become a humblebrag way of calling the other party delusional without even trying to understand. The list here though is long: priorities, accuracy concerns, blurring the line on official support, IP restrictions with third parties (even Apple uses plenty of licensed cores), etc.

I don't see it that way. It's just the GP poster saying that they don't get it. Usually that means the GP poster isn't experienced enough to understand the rationality. So I generally assume the GP poster is simply naive.

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Linux 7.0

#45

I really hope this project continues to gain momentum. Apple Hardware + Linux is the least fscked OS running on the best hardware. MacOS continues to be a tire fire with endless bugs and churn between versions.

I've run all 3 major OSes before. MacOS by far has the least bugs and kinda just works.

My variosu Linux adventures have always resulted in doing random patches for audio or screen incompatibility.

My windows days were plagued with battery issues.

I feel like most Linux ricers wishs for a MacOS-like experience, except with more customisation. (Which is entirely possible now with the ricing on Mac)

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Linux 7.0

#46
post #4

When I think about it, I don't understand why Apple wouldn't want to help this effort and just provide all the documentation. All the classic reasons ("competitive advantage", "secrets", etc) do not hold water in this day and age.

Little to no monetary benefit, hardware changes now need to be documented for Linux, loudest and most critical users but smallest volume.

And risk of loss of control on the software ecosystem.

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Linux 7.0

#47
post #4

When I think about it, I don't understand why Apple wouldn't want to help this effort and just provide all the documentation. All the classic reasons ("competitive advantage", "secrets", etc) do not hold water in this day and age.

> Focus is about saying no to 100 good ideas so you can pursue one great idea.

Important context to understand why.

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Linux 7.0

#49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Little to no monetary benefit, hardware changes now need to be documented for Linux, loudest and most critical users but smallest volume.

And risk of loss of control on the software ecosystem.

This is the big one IMHO. Apple is all about control of the stack, top to bottom. Any sort of "help" with linux on macos would be threatening to that control. Apple "helped" even more than I would have expected by not locking alt OSes out of the bootloader. Probably for less than altruistic reasons, but they did do it.

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Linux 7.0

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They get more public goodwill from a single ad. The chronically online Linux-using engineer community is too small to matter.

Developers build many of the applications that make the platform desirable. Steve Ballmer at least seem to get that part. ;)

The developers for their platforms. Which, crucially, Linux developers are not.
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