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As oceans warm, great white sharks are overheating

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Re: As oceans warm, great white sharks are overheating

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Post by Deukhoofd »

mempko wrote: post #17
vivzkestrel wrote: post #6

- stupid question - if everyone on the entire planet went 100% vegan from tomorrow, will carbon emissions really go down by 60%?

Most of the emissions are done by the 100 biggest corporations. That's where I'd start fixing things.

That factoid always hides the real issue. The biggest reason that that factoid is true is that the 100 biggest companies includes a large amount of the fossil fuel industry, and that that industry produces most emissions in the world. A company like Saudi Aramco produce 4% of global emissions.

We need to reduce our dependency on fossil fuels.

For full clarity, it's also not the 100 biggest corporations that produce most emissions, but the 100 biggest companies. A massive amount of the global emissions are done by state-owned companies.

Re: As oceans warm, great white sharks are overheating

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Post by qsera »

HelloMcFly wrote: post #14

I want to ignore these articles as it is so painful to watch the beautiful clockwork of the natural world unravel. I hate facing the suffering, diminishment, and extinction of so much in the name of profiteering and ever-increasing growth. But this is the world now, there will only be more stories like this, and so I'm not turning away from it any further. The world becomes less beautiful, less rich, less full every…

>natural world unravel

Natural world would be mostly fine one way or other, human beings might not survive though...

Re: As oceans warm, great white sharks are overheating

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Post by tencentshill »

HelloMcFly wrote: post #14

I want to ignore these articles as it is so painful to watch the beautiful clockwork of the natural world unravel. I hate facing the suffering, diminishment, and extinction of so much in the name of profiteering and ever-increasing growth. But this is the world now, there will only be more stories like this, and so I'm not turning away from it any further. The world becomes less beautiful, less rich, less full every…

We've always consumed and extracted until we run out, but only very recently started actually tracking it and taking any preventative measures at all. Will take yet more time to gain momentum in that direction. The consequences will be too obvious and unavoidable for the next few generations to stagnate like we have.

Re: As oceans warm, great white sharks are overheating

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Post by realsharkymark »

ihumanable wrote: post #32
bilsbie wrote: post #24

How come the sharks don’t migrate toward colder water?

> Several large tuna species and sharks, known as “mesothermic” species for the way their bodies run hot, require more fuel to maintain their temperature and are thus confronting a “double jeopardy” of warming oceans and declining food, mainly from overfishing. As water temperatures climb, these species will be forced to relocate to cooler waters. They are moving to cooler waters but the cooler waters won't have the…

Whites do dive deep as they age, and feed on giant squid and elephant seals that dive deep as well.

Re: As oceans warm, great white sharks are overheating

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Post by everdrive »

HelloMcFly wrote: post #14

I want to ignore these articles as it is so painful to watch the beautiful clockwork of the natural world unravel. I hate facing the suffering, diminishment, and extinction of so much in the name of profiteering and ever-increasing growth. But this is the world now, there will only be more stories like this, and so I'm not turning away from it any further. The world becomes less beautiful, less rich, less full every…

But on the plus side a few companies increased shareholder value. Can you imagine if we had fewer products, or didn't push the human population its theoretical maximum?

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Post by concinds »

HelloMcFly wrote: post #14

I want to ignore these articles as it is so painful to watch the beautiful clockwork of the natural world unravel. I hate facing the suffering, diminishment, and extinction of so much in the name of profiteering and ever-increasing growth. But this is the world now, there will only be more stories like this, and so I'm not turning away from it any further. The world becomes less beautiful, less rich, less full every…

Blaming "profiteering and ever-increasing growth" is way too easy.

Can any legislature get away with dramatically increasing taxes on meat, fish, gas, and plane tickets, just at a level high enough to account for environmental externalities? Even dictatorships couldn't get away with it because it would cause too much unrest.

Re: As oceans warm, great white sharks are overheating

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Post by acuozzo »

bilsbie wrote: post #36

My main skepticism (Shark lover here btw!) Is that sharks are an ancient species and they’ve survived way warmer oceans even relatively recently. For example the Medieval Warm Period Sargasso Sea surface temperatures were 1°C warmer than 400 years ago, and Pacific Ocean water temperatures were 0.65°C warmer than the decades before.

Were there any periods in which the rate of change in warming was the same or greater?

Re: As oceans warm, great white sharks are overheating

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Post by tokai »

bilsbie wrote: post #33
JMKH42 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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What about it is nonsense? You don’t think there’s any bias due to securing funding?

That you spew bullshit about something you clearly don't know anything about. You can look up the basis funding is given on. HFSP needs novel basic research methods and international collaboration. The other funding is from Irish groups that fund Irish researchers. Besides those requirements seniority of the researchers involved is one of the most important factors, thats were any bias in funding actually lies. HFSP even states that preliminary results are not needed for applicants.
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