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Re: Brands got worse on purpose

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Super interesting -- outside the premise which we all know to be true. What is their goal here -- to crowdsource information so that we have a public record of note for companies? What are they planning to do with that information etc?

> Super interesting -- outside the premise which we all know to be true.

Obviously we do not "all know it to be true," since this business model works.

> What is their goal here -- to crowdsource information so that we have a public record of note for companies? What are they planning to do with that information etc?

This website? You kinda make it sound like a conspiracy. This seems like basic consumer advocacy: identify a problem, get the information out there so consumers can make better choices and not be fooled, and maybe (a long-shot) get some kind of cultural or legislative change to solve the problem.

Speaking of the latter, it would probably be a good idea to change bankruptcy law so that brands and trademarks cannot be sold in liquidation (at least without the associated business operations). Practices like the article describe undermine the social value of a trademark, and turn them into an opportunity for deception.

Though with these kinds of blogs, if it gets successful and influential, eventually it may just turn to a pay-to-play. IIRC, that's what happened to "mattress review" blogs.

Re: Brands got worse on purpose

#43
> Billabong board shorts lasted a decade of salt water and sun,

I've had a Billabong orange t-shirt last almost 15 years of sun and salt water from time to time, one of the best clothes-related purchases I've ever made. Sad to see that that's now a thing of the past.

Re: Brands got worse on purpose

#44

Get this: the byline, Keyana Sapp? A Palantir employee in AI strategy. https://www.linkedin.com/in/keyanasapp/ They're iterating AI-written consumer populist blog posts and using us as guinea pigs, until we stop noticing they're AI. Their last one was "Your Backpack Got Worse On Purpose", which we did great on. ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47777209 , flagged off main page) Don't let them get away with this,…

Weirdly, the author has his mediocre GRE scores on his LinkedIn page.

I was working on a grant application a few days back, tl;dr: color science x LACMA, big art museum in LA. Opus 4.7 told me to include my AP exam scores from _19 years ago_. I took 13 in one year, which is highly rare, but certainly not CV/grant application material at 37 years old, and it didn't need to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find something to say.

Re: Brands got worse on purpose

#45

Support brands with values and local manufacturing. For example: American Giant, Origin, Crye Precision, Randolph Engineering, American Optical, and many more.

Shout out to American Giant. I have like 15 t-shirts from them, some are ten years old and they look new. Buying good stuff saves money in the long run!

Same here.. i bulk buy tons of AG (American Giant) t-shirts (Premium Slub Crew Tee is awesome) and tons of their jeans too.

Re: Brands got worse on purpose

#46
Same with household appliances. Most of the familiar names are shadows of their former selves. Unlike in clothes though the quality alternatives are usually really expensive.

Re: Brands got worse on purpose

#47

Funny baader-meinhof moment for me reading this. My wife recently bought me some Brooks Brothers polo shirts that essentially dissolved the first time they were washed. I had never seen a shirt that was such poor quality. We were both flabbergasted, and the employees apparently gave her a bit of a hard time when she tried to return them. I suppose I now know why. What this company is doing is taking advantage of, and…

hmm... but that doesn't guarantee that the customer will buy from "my main brand"

rather, if I know A is a "family brand" of B(rooks bro?), then I'll try to NOT buy from A, and buy from C/D/E/F/G/etc instead

Re: Brands got worse on purpose

#48
Is there a review platform that focuses on brands, rather than on stores? For instance, if I look for Brooks Brothers reviews, I get reviews of individual stores, of their website, and a couple articles talking about the business. It seems like a good way to combat the information asymmetry being exploited here would be a trustworthy (I know, good luck) review platform that focuses on overall brands, rather than specific outlet channels. This seems like it ought to exist, but I'm not aware of where.

It seems like that may be partly what this site is trying to build with the ledger, but it looks focused only on the "bad".

Re: Brands got worse on purpose

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Get this: the byline, Keyana Sapp? A Palantir employee in AI strategy. https://www.linkedin.com/in/keyanasapp/ They're iterating AI-written consumer populist blog posts and using us as guinea pigs, until we stop noticing they're AI. Their last one was "Your Backpack Got Worse On Purpose", which we did great on. ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47777209 , flagged off main page) Don't let them get away with this,…

gross. I want to unread it now. annoying because this kind of brand degradation is something important to me. but that's not enough to make me read a Palantir AI dude.

Re: Brands got worse on purpose

#50

I'm glad they had the "Brands That Still Make Their Own Stuff" list, that was my first thought. What other brands are still decent?

Arcteryx, despite being owned by a larger corporation, is still high quality. Their hardshell jackets are the gold standard.

I've also had success with Mountain Hardware, Outdoor Research (jackets and pants).

(I do search and rescue, so a lot of focus on outdoor stuff. It is also really hard on gear so anything cheaply made gets destroyed pretty quickly.)

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