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Play and read simultaneously. Its nice.
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"When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."
- C.S. Lewis
We accepted surveillance as default
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#42When Apple first released App Tracking Transparency, I immediately used it to block the trackers and I have not even thought about it since because it is so simple and useful. What a contrast to modern websites which require all sorts of weird clicking gymnastics to disable similar tracking.
Ironically Google couldn't disable third-party cookies even if they wanted to; it's seen as anti-competitive to other tracking networks and was blocked by the courts.
Really? Do you have a link? That sounds very interesting and very frustrating.
Regardless, because of such things I'm guessing the only ways to disable such tracking in the foreseeable future will still be 3rd party non-affiliated DNS/extensions or browsers such as Brave and Safari (to some extent).
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#43The government is going to surveil. That's not going to change. It's whether or not warrantless searches are admissible; and they generally arent.
There's also the issues of geo-fenced warrants and the FISA courts in the U.S.
Warrant processes and issuance should not be secret nor generic enough to allow for "blanket" hoovering of Personally Identifiable Information.
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#44This is all well and good but as long as advertising is how folks make money on the web, the surveillance state will persist.
They'll still surveil even if you pay for the product. Why wouldn't they? It's an additional income stream.
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#45This is all well and good but as long as advertising is how folks make money on the web, the surveillance state will persist.
Advertising doesn't require surveillance though.
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#47This is all well and good but as long as advertising is how folks make money on the web, the surveillance state will persist.
They'll still surveil even if you pay for the product. Why wouldn't they? It's an additional income stream.
> Why wouldn't they? It's an additional income stream.
If customers cared, the additional income from being someone who didn't surveil could outstrip the income stream from surveilling.
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#48Sorry to nitpick but tracking and surveillance are not the same thing. Go back to the last century for a second, before all this 21st-century tech came along. Just because your cell phone and towers would be able to track what rough region (let's call it "site") you were visiting, that doesn't mean they were surveilling you. Surveillance implies things about bith intended usage and actual usage, etc. that -- simply p…
The difference is the intention. A corporation maybe tracking. The same data, once given to the governance surveillance teams, is then used to surveil. Same info and mechanisms.
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We should pass laws that require the weird clicking gymnastics to opt-in to tracking. Instead of the default opt-in hidden in the terms and conditions nobody reads.
The EU did that and people still bitch about GDPR banners on websites.
GDPR didnt do it, lazy site owners that didnt want to read the legislation did.
Most sites dont even need those popups, but its easier to just shove one on your site than try to understand the specific situations which do need it.
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"When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." - C.S. Lewis
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