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NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

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Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

#42

This an ad. Any "news" about Anthropic is just an ad at this point and most probably bullshit

This seems cynical. Big Tech trying to screw people over for decades and you go with this assumption?

We must imagine Big Tech Benevolent.

Seriously though. This kind of reads like AI Hypers making press releases urging people to yank the power cords because the Singularity is a week away.

> The model is the company's "most capable yet for coding and agentic tasks," Anthropic has previously said, referring to the model's ability to act autonomously.

> Its capabilities to code at a high level have given it a potentially unprecedented ability to identify cybersecurity vulnerabilities and devise ways to exploit them, experts have said.

Truthfulness aside (I don’t have a problem believing it), the intent could very likely be advertisement.

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

#44
post #22

The pace at which we sprint toward a full blown surveillance state, with unaccountable oracles sentencing us for pre-crime, is alarming to say the least.

The new movie Mercy is a good take in this, as fiction.

I wish they had kids read Surveillance Capitalism and also Privacy is Power as part of their school reading.

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

#45
post #22

The pace at which we sprint toward a full blown surveillance state, with unaccountable oracles sentencing us for pre-crime, is alarming to say the least.

You realize Mythos can read this, right? I, for one, welcome our new AI overlords.

Relevant The Onion video: https://youtu.be/OGxdgNJ_lZM?is=_GWN2VafBzPIL3MU

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

#46
post #4

Are they on a blacklist or there was a random tweet from the president saying they are? Because sanctions and tariffs change day to day...

Anthropic is on a blacklist. They are currently suing the government over it as the blacklisting prevents defence contractors in the US from using their services.

This is the best link I could find quickly about it, a WSJ gift link so it can be read without a subscription:

https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/anthropic-sue...

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

#48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The government is the one that said it didn't want/couldn't use this Technically, the Pentagon did. I don’t know if that’s legally binding on the NSA.

TFA says the NSA is part of the DOD.

It is, but NSA reports to the director of national intelligence, not the defense secretary, so it’s unclear (to me at least) that SecDef’s opinion of Anthropic counts for anything here

I guess DOD is large enough they have multiple parallel cabinet level positions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Agency

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

#49
post #22

The pace at which we sprint toward a full blown surveillance state, with unaccountable oracles sentencing us for pre-crime, is alarming to say the least.

Snowdens document leaks happened in 2013 (implying the surveillance state was set up well before then). So this is more a leisurely stroll than a sprint.

Re: NSA is using Anthropic's Mythos despite blacklist

#50
post #2

That is expected. What is not expected is us knowing about it. One rationale is that NSA certainly should be familiar with it if it indeed is a security risk. Nothing to see here.

I find that confidence quite unsettling considering everything we know about just the government in general, not even to mention what Snowden released, and I know he did not release everything. Are you at all familiar with what Snowden released? I’m curious because I find it odd that anyone with any sense of what he released can be confident in believing it is safe that this or any government can simply be trusted wi…

My point was narrower than suggested. If Mythos is in fact a security risk, then the NSA is one of the actors most likely to already understand that. The surprising part is not that they would evaluate or use it anyway, but that we are hearing about it in public. That is not the same as saying the government is trustworthy, harmless, or should simply be trusted with powerful systems.

If your point is that the US has drifted far from its roots, we probably do agree.

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