Maybe they should try getting a paid Google Workspace subscription /s
Having a workspace subscription still doesn't get you a human to talk to.
FSF trying to contact Google about spammer sending 10k+ mails from Gmail account
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Re: FSF trying to contact Google about spammer sending 10k+ mails from Gmail account
#42It seems weird that Google wouldn't have some kind of observability alert on outgoing email. 10k emails per week is a lot.
It may not be a single email, they might be using many throwaway accounts.
Re: FSF trying to contact Google about spammer sending 10k+ mails from Gmail account
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
A monopoly. It's hard for "everyone else" to develop a monopoly today, to suggest otherwise is a ridiculous assertion.
Gmail is not a monopoly. When it comes to actual paying customers, it is not even the market leader > ridiculous assertion. What is ridiculous is the idea that running an email service a massive scale like Gmail is somehow free .
> Gmail is not a monopoly.
https://pdx.social/@evergreensewing/116388477430172491
> For the first time since we started the company back in January/February, we have a customer who does NOT use Gmail for their email address.
> In case you wanted to see what a monopoly looks like.
Re: FSF trying to contact Google about spammer sending 10k+ mails from Gmail account
#44It honestly is a bit dissapointing that most of the internet's "infrastructure" is tied up in large corporations that just get money for free by being the only provider and face little to no backlash (because of their monopoly) when they neglect things like basic customer service.
Gmail is free. How much customer support resources should someone reasonably expect a company to dedicate towards their free-of-charge services?
We might not be paying money, but we don't know what happens to our private data.
Maybe it's not used at all, maybe used just internally, maybe could be even sold.
Data of millions of users is very very valuable, even just thinking about how much targeted adverts could be placed with it.
Re: FSF trying to contact Google about spammer sending 10k+ mails from Gmail account
#45Re: FSF trying to contact Google about spammer sending 10k+ mails from Gmail account
#46Google suspend email accounts that get lots of spam reports. It happens a couple of times a year for salespeople in my company who use Gmass (a bulk email sending tool). I mention it only as a useful data point, and in the absence of anyone else on the thread mentioning that Google have robust email abuse monitoring.
So, just to clarify, the salespeople are spamming cold addresses, or are they opted in or existing customers?
Re: FSF trying to contact Google about spammer sending 10k+ mails from Gmail account
#47It honestly is a bit dissapointing that most of the internet's "infrastructure" is tied up in large corporations that just get money for free by being the only provider and face little to no backlash (because of their monopoly) when they neglect things like basic customer service.
Gmail is free. How much customer support resources should someone reasonably expect a company to dedicate towards their free-of-charge services?
Gmail shows ads to make money so it is not loss making.
Google Workspace charges money per user (and still offers abysmal support).
Re: FSF trying to contact Google about spammer sending 10k+ mails from Gmail account
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Re: FSF trying to contact Google about spammer sending 10k+ mails from Gmail account
#49I wonder if this has to do with the massive number of google calendar invites I’ve been getting as payment/billing notifications lately.
I’ve not been reporting them because I already know they aren’t valid and do not google’s work for them
Re: FSF trying to contact Google about spammer sending 10k+ mails from Gmail account
#50Had Google trying to send me mails to non-existing mail-addresses over months. You would think their logs might catch something like that or they would react to my complaints ... they don't and they just dont care.
It sometimes stops for weeks, then it continiues.
from my logs as an example: Nov 13 22:10:51 bert postfix/smtpd[2693931]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from mail-oi1-x248.google.com[2607:f8b0:4864:20::248]: 450 4.1.8 : Sender address rejected: Domain not found; from= to= proto=ESMTP helo= Nov 13 22:12:07 bert postfix/smtpd[2696594]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from mail-ua1-x948.google.com[2607:f8b0:4864:20::948]: 450 4.1.8 : Sender address rejected: Domain not found; from= to= proto=ESMTP helo= Nov 13 22:12:18 bert postfix/smtpd[2696594]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from mail-wm1-x346.google.com[2a00:1450:4864:20::346]: 450 4.1.8 : Sender address rejected: Domain not found; from= to= proto=ESMTP helo= Nov 13 22:12:37 bert postfix/smtpd[2696594]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from mail-lf1-x146.google.com[2a00:1450:4864:20::146]: 450 4.1.8 : Sender address rejected: Domain not found; from= to= proto=ESMTP helo= Nov 13 22:13:08 bert postfix/smtpd[2696594]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from mail-lj1-x248.google.com[2a00:1450:4864:20::248]: 450 4.1.8 : Sender address rejected: Domain not found; from= to= proto=ESMTP helo= Nov 13 22:13:08 bert postfix/smtpd[2696594]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from mail-wm1-x345.google.com[2a00:1450:4864:20::345]: 450 4.1.8 : Sender address rejected: Domain not found; from= to= proto=ESMTP helo= Nov 13 22:14:03 bert postfix/smtpd[2696594]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from mail-lj1-x248.google.com[2a00:1450:4864:20::248]: 450 4.1.8 : Sender address rejected: Domain not found; from= to= proto=ESMTP helo=
As you can see, the to-address is generated and its different hosts at google trying to send mails.
Searching for zf.thesparklebar.com shows others having the same problem.