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Are you saying that has failed? It isn't obvious to me from that page that anything in particular is going wrong. I don't think anyone is daft enough to claim that AI solves the "Iowa remains unplantable due to winter conditions" problem.
Looking at the timeline they seem hopelessly behind. Its currently the planting window and they don't have land or a person to work it.
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#44Is there a open source mini robot kit that allows me to play-around with agentic robots?
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#46It does all start to feel like we'd get fairly close to being able to convincingly emulate a lot of human or at least animal behavior on top of the existing generative stack, by using brain-like orchestration patterns ... if only inference was fast enough to do much more of it. The gauge-reading example here is great, but in reality of course having the system synthesize that Python script, run the CV tasks, come bac…
Is emulating human behavior really a valuable end goal though? Humans exist as the evolutionary endpoint of exhaustion hunting large pray and organic tool-making. We've built loads of industrial and residential automation tools in the last 100 years and none of them are humanoid. I'd imagine a household robot butler would be more like R2D2 with lots and lots of arms.
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#47Would this approach destroy critical investments in physics- or modeling-based reasoning? I'm all for the task reasoning and the multi-view recognition, based on relevant points. I'm very uncomfortable with the loose world "understanding". The fault model I see is that e.g., this "visual understanding" will get things mostly right: enough to build and even deliver products. However, these are only probabilistic guara…
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#48Showing the murder dog reading a gauge using $$$ worth of model time is kinda not an amazing demo. We already know how to read gauges with machine vision. We also know how to order digital gauges out of industrial catalogs for under $50.
Agree. I'm unclear what's the highlight of this post. Is the multimodality of the model (that can replace computer vision), is it the reasoning part, is it the overall wrapper that makes it very easy to develop on top?
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#49LLMs are really good at the sort of tasks that have been missing from robotics: understanding, reasoning, planning etc, so we'll likely see much more use of them in various robotics applications. I guess the main question right now is:
- who sends in the various fine-motor commands. The answer most labs/researchers have is "a smaller diffusion model", so the LLM acts as a planner, then a smaller faster diffusion model controls the actual motors. I suspect in many cases you can get away with the equivalent of a tool call - the LLM simply calls out a particular subroutine, like "go forward 1m" or "tilt camera right"
- what do you do about memory? All the models are either purely reactive or take a very small slice of history and use that as part of the input, so they all need some type of memory/state management system to actually allow them to work on a task for more than a little while. It's not clear to me whether this will be standardized and become part of models themselves, or everyone will just do their own thing.
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#50Showing the murder dog reading a gauge using $$$ worth of model time is kinda not an amazing demo. We already know how to read gauges with machine vision. We also know how to order digital gauges out of industrial catalogs for under $50.