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Claude may require identity verification in some cases

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Re: Claude may require identity verification in some cases

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Anthropic says they may not train their models using your data, but apparently Persona (the service they will use for identity verification) WILL according to https://thelocalstack.eu/posts/linkedin-identity-verificatio... Persona also might send your data to 17 different subprocessors (16 if you exclude Anthropic itself).

> Persona also might send your data to 17 different subprocessors You reminded me of this submission from two months ago: I verified my LinkedIn identity. Here's what I handed over ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47098245 )

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Re: Claude may require identity verification in some cases

#42

This is deranged. Say you wanted to use AI to prepare whistleblowing submission to use regulatory language and test for any weak points. Then Claude flags it and requires you to identify yourself. It's not a stretch of imagination that before you manage to send the bundle, you find yourself in the suitcase somewhere in the woods. People explore all kinds of sensitive stuff and I see it is tempting for AI companies to…

I think minimal opsec here would suggest you not share your data with a random corporation in the usa.

Re: Claude may require identity verification in some cases

#43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

... so let me understand this. It is frequently said that programming directly is obsolete, and the skill you must have now is knowing how to operate agentic AIs. Yet you aren't allowed to do this until you're 18. So, developing software is now 18+ only?

Qwen3 runs locally on reasonable hardware, and is comparable to a mid-2025 Claude Sonnet (albeit possibly rather slower) . Local models are chasing the online frontier models pretty hard. So worst case, that's the fallback (FWIW, YMMV) edit: Qwen-3.5 MoE (and other local MoE models like it)

Whats "reasonable hardware"?

Re: Claude may require identity verification in some cases

#44

This is deranged. Say you wanted to use AI to prepare whistleblowing submission to use regulatory language and test for any weak points. Then Claude flags it and requires you to identify yourself. It's not a stretch of imagination that before you manage to send the bundle, you find yourself in the suitcase somewhere in the woods. People explore all kinds of sensitive stuff and I see it is tempting for AI companies to…

I think minimal opsec here would suggest you not share your data with a random corporation in the usa.

Sharing the data with any random corporation seems like a bad idea.

Re: Claude may require identity verification in some cases

#45

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Those are reasons for banning after verification, not reasons for requesting identity verification in the first place.

They request ID for bans so that they can ban you personally. ID checks may as well be a sign that you've already been banned and they're fishing for ways to make the ban harder to evade. Venmo does the same thing.

> ID checks may as well be a sign that you've already been banned and they're fishing for ways to make the ban harder to evade.

So identity verification is basically a canary that your account is about to get banned, or is on the chopping block. At that point you're better off abandoning ship rather than handing over your ID.

Re: Claude may require identity verification in some cases

#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

... so let me understand this. It is frequently said that programming directly is obsolete, and the skill you must have now is knowing how to operate agentic AIs. Yet you aren't allowed to do this until you're 18. So, developing software is now 18+ only?

> It is frequently said that programming directly is obsolete Who says this?

The CEO of the company in question with the age limit, for one

Re: Claude may require identity verification in some cases

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post #15

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I can guess at least one valid: * preventing North Korea, China, Russian, Iran and etc. actors from accessing service. They absolutely use workarounds to access AI, e.g. I bet there are companies who are proxy between Anthropic and those countries. I imagine there will be quite some false positives while identifying those.

This will do absolutely nothing to prevent those actors from accessing Claude... they already recruit young unemployed Americans to do proxy job interviews[0][1], etc. They'll just pay young unemployed Americans to do verification for them. [0] https://www.tradingview.com/news/cointelegraph:6192f38e3094b... [1] https://youtube.com/watch?v=QebpXFM1ha0

Also, as many teenagers know, it's trivial to get a fake ID card.

Re: Claude may require identity verification in some cases

#49

Why is this necessary if I'm paying Anthropic with a credit card? A credit card requires a) credit worthiness, b) a line of credit from a bank based on the individual's identity, and c) regular payments. Why isn't a credit card enough? Why can't certain features be paywalled? If someone is doing something deeply unethical with Claude, let's say they're using a clade of Claudes to launch cyberattacks, then doesn't Ant…

> Why is this necessary if I'm paying Anthropic with a credit card?

You can have a CC / Visa / MasterCard when you are under 18 years old, but you need to be 18 or older for Claude. That would be one reasons why CC does not work.

Or maybe they suspect you opened a second account after your first got banned for whatever reason. Like you said it's easy to get a new card.

Re: Claude may require identity verification in some cases

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

... so let me understand this. It is frequently said that programming directly is obsolete, and the skill you must have now is knowing how to operate agentic AIs. Yet you aren't allowed to do this until you're 18. So, developing software is now 18+ only?

> It is frequently said that programming directly is obsolete Who says this?

I mean, you can disagree with the sentiment (I certainly do), but there are still an awful lot of people saying it.
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