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An AI Vibe Coding Horror Story

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Re: An AI Vibe Coding Horror Story

#42

Software engineering is looking more and more like it needs a professional body in each country, and accreditation and standards. Ie it needs to grow up and become like every other strand of engineering. Gone should be the days of “I taught myself so now I can [design software in a professional setting / design a bridge in a professional setting].” I’m not advocating gatekeeping - if you want to build a small bridge…

Professional bodies act as nothing more then gatekeepers and rent seekers for things of this nature. Anyone can write software, but not everyone writes security minded software.

We already have laws in place, and certifications that help someone understand if a given organization adheres to given standards. We can argue over their validity, efficacy, or value.

The infrastructure, laws, and framework exist for this. More regulation and beaurocracy doesn't help when current state isn't enforced.

Re: An AI Vibe Coding Horror Story

#43

What would a responsible on-boarding flow for all of these tools look like? > Welcome to VibeToolX. > By pressing Confirm you accept all responsibility for user data stewardship as regulated in every country where your users reside. Would that be scary enough to nudge some risk analysis on the user's part? I am sure that would drop adoption by a lot, so I don't see it happening voluntarily.

We require someone with a professional engineering designation from an accredited engineering body to sign off and approve before a building can be built. If it is found to have structural issues later, that person can be directly liable and can lose their license to operate. Why this is not the case with health software I cannot explain. Every time I propose this the only argument I recieve against it is people who are mad that their field might dare to apply the same regulation every other field has.

Re: An AI Vibe Coding Horror Story

#44

What would a responsible on-boarding flow for all of these tools look like? > Welcome to VibeToolX. > By pressing Confirm you accept all responsibility for user data stewardship as regulated in every country where your users reside. Would that be scary enough to nudge some risk analysis on the user's part? I am sure that would drop adoption by a lot, so I don't see it happening voluntarily.

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Re: An AI Vibe Coding Horror Story

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What would a responsible on-boarding flow for all of these tools look like? > Welcome to VibeToolX. > By pressing Confirm you accept all responsibility for user data stewardship as regulated in every country where your users reside. Would that be scary enough to nudge some risk analysis on the user's part? I am sure that would drop adoption by a lot, so I don't see it happening voluntarily.

We require someone with a professional engineering designation from an accredited engineering body to sign off and approve before a building can be built. If it is found to have structural issues later, that person can be directly liable and can lose their license to operate. Why this is not the case with health software I cannot explain. Every time I propose this the only argument I recieve against it is people who…

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Re: An AI Vibe Coding Horror Story

#46

What would a responsible on-boarding flow for all of these tools look like? > Welcome to VibeToolX. > By pressing Confirm you accept all responsibility for user data stewardship as regulated in every country where your users reside. Would that be scary enough to nudge some risk analysis on the user's part? I am sure that would drop adoption by a lot, so I don't see it happening voluntarily.

Would it? Feels a bit like when you use Facebook and handover all your data.

Re: An AI Vibe Coding Horror Story

#47
I know, through personal acquaintance, of at least one boutique accounting firm that is currently vibe-building their own CRM with Lovable. They have no technical staff. I can't begin to comprehend the disasters that are in store.

Re: An AI Vibe Coding Horror Story

#48

This reads like internet fiction to me. Very vague and short.

yeah keeping it vague makes sense to protect the place if it's still online but the whole thing doesn't really make sense?

The timelines mentioned are weird - he spoke to them before they built it? Or after? It's not that clear, he mentions they mentioned watching a video.

> The entire application was a single HTML file with all JavaScript, CSS, and structure written inline.

This is not my experience of how agents tend to build at all. I often _ask_ them to do that, but their tendency is to use a lot of files and structure

> They even added a feature to record conversations during appointments

So they have the front-desk laptop in the doctor's room? Or they were recording conversations anyway and now they for feed them into the system afterwards?

> All "access control" logic lived in the JavaScript on the client side, meaning the data was literally one curl command away from anyone who looked.

Also definitely not the normal way an agent would build something - security flaws yes, but this sounds more like someone who just learnt coding or the most upvoted post of all time on r/programmerhorror, not really AI.

Overall I'm skeptical of the claims made in this article until I see stronger evidence (not that I'm supporting using slop for a medical system in general).

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