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Industrial design files for Keychron keyboards and mice

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Re: Industrial design files for Keychron keyboards and mice

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I have their Q60, which is a retro-themed HHKB layout 60% board. Paired with a set of beige-Mac-themed MT3 Extended 2048 keycaps, out of my collection it's one of my favorites and sees some of the most use. It goes head to head with pricier one-off hobbyist boards. I wonder how suitable these CAD files would be for either CNCing or resin-printing a translucent fruit-colored plastic case for a different flavor of retr…

MT3 really is a fantastic profile.

Re: Industrial design files for Keychron keyboards and mice

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I have their Q60, which is a retro-themed HHKB layout 60% board. Paired with a set of beige-Mac-themed MT3 Extended 2048 keycaps, out of my collection it's one of my favorites and sees some of the most use. It goes head to head with pricier one-off hobbyist boards. I wonder how suitable these CAD files would be for either CNCing or resin-printing a translucent fruit-colored plastic case for a different flavor of retr…

MT3 really is a fantastic profile.

Both variants are great but I'm particularly fond of the PBT version. The slightly rough/matte texture that doesn't wear away easily and exaggerated dome shapes are sublime to use.

Re: Industrial design files for Keychron keyboards and mice

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"Production-grade hardware design files... Study real CAD... Learn from how real products are built... STEP"

I'm sorry, I hate to be that guy, but while STEP files are often used as the final export to the contract manufacturer to cut the molds, or for some level of fit checking, they're not used for anything else. The real engineering that you can actually learn from is in the SolidWorks (or equivalent) part files, and you'll note that they're not offering those.

Re: Industrial design files for Keychron keyboards and mice

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Hasn’t Creative Commons disavowed or at least really downplayed the NC license for exactly these reasons? There are so many ambiguities and headaches involved that the only advice I’ve ever seen is not to use it.

I'd love to see more info on this

Likewise, I was unaware of this (and still see it in use regularly, especially on places like Printables as I've recently gotten my hands on a printer myself)

Re: Industrial design files for Keychron keyboards and mice

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You're asking some pretty niche copyright questions that even a lawyer would have to spend time searching for case law for. It may be more expedient to look for that case law yourself.

If you need to be an attorney to figure out if you're allowed to take a picture of something, we've already jumped the shark.

Not what he asked.

Re: Industrial design files for Keychron keyboards and mice

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Not a lawyer, but as I understand it the license is a matter of copyright, and the copyright only applies to the design files. So as long as you're making that keyboard for yourself then you should be good to do anything you want with the keyboard, because it is no longer using the license at that point. Now, what is interesting is if someone were to blatantly violate the license and start manufacturing commercial ke…

> Not a lawyer, but as I understand it the license is a matter of copyright, and the copyright only applies to the design files. So as long as you're making that keyboard for yourself then you should be good to do anything you want with the keyboard, because it is no longer using the license at that point. What if I take the design, print it, include the thing in a staged photo, and sell prints of the photo? What if…

> What if I take the design, print it, include the thing in a staged photo, and sell prints of the photo?

This is probably acceptable

> What if I skip the printing and use the design files as a basis for a rendered photo or animation?

This is probably NOT acceptable

> What if I print the design, then use a 3D scanner to recreate a file from the physical artifact?

If you used that for personal things yes that would be acceptable. I do not think that would give you the right to then sell that as a product neither digitally nor phsically

Re: Industrial design files for Keychron keyboards and mice

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What's so special about these designs that makes it copyrightable? The keyboards in the image look very much like any other keyboard I've seen.

Novelty is irrelevant to copyright. You are probably thinking of patents or trade marks.
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