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Study found that young adults have grown less hopeful and more angry about AI

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Re: Study found that young adults have grown less hopeful and more angry about AI

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Post by thankyoufriend »

9rx wrote: post #22
bad_haircut72 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah "start a business with AI" is the new "learn to code". Like what does that even mean, do you just go to Claude "hey what business should I start?" If starting a business was so easy, almost all of us who work salary would go do it. This advice is like, if your local football club gets shut down, just work hard enough to make into Manchester United

> If starting a business was so easy, almost all of us who work salary would go do it. Would we? Starting a business is easy. Building a profitable business isn't even that hard. Wanting pleasure in our work is what stops us. Running a business generally isn't much fun. We work salary because it means we can focus on the enjoyable parts of the business, letting someone else deal with the crap.

> We work salary because it means we can focus on the enjoyable parts of the business, letting someone else deal with the crap.

I can understand why a specialist would feel this way.

Personally, I believe that most people who work salary do it because of the job security and the health insurance.

Re: Study found that young adults have grown less hopeful and more angry about AI

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Post by mistrial9 »

therobots927 wrote: post #7

Yeah well maybe that has something to do with entry level jobs drying up, ostensibly due to AI. I don’t even think that’s actually the case - we’re in a soft recession. AI has nothing to do with it. But that’s not what kids are being told. Great marketing campaign guys. Just wait. If you think sentiment around AI is negative now you haven’t seen shit .

> what kids are being told

"kids" you mean people under 30 taking jobs to have their own financial life?

Re: Study found that young adults have grown less hopeful and more angry about AI

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Post by throwaway290 »

palmotea wrote: post #21
richwater wrote: post #8

AI is just another disruptive technology like the loom, the steam engine or the airplane. It will take time to adjust and some industries will go away and others will pop up. I think a lot of people are conflating two ongoing things: the emergence of AI and stagnant (if not recessionary) economies across the globe. It appears as if AI is resulting in so much more negative externalities but in reality if not for AI, w…

> AI is just another disruptive technology like the loom, the steam engine or the airplane. It will take time to adjust and some industries will go away and others will pop up. That's fallacious thinking. Technological developments aren't instances of some kind of repeating phenomena; they're distinct, unique events with their own characteristics. You need to consider those characteristics instead of gesticulating at…

> you could totally go up to someone in the middle of a genocide, as their community in the process of being murdered, and say "genocides have happened before, some people will go away, others will survive."

Yeah. How many times I saw people here say oh yeah it's just the same as job loss during automaton-industrialization. How is that making things better? "Yeah just more mass poverty and more wealth inequality, what are you worried about!"

Also during automation there was a lot of work you could switch to and what about options now? start another vibeslop startup so that you can pay openai for tokens?

the only explanation for people saying this is that they don't understand they will be on the line later just like the people displaced now. but the dream of being the .1% who get to be on top and monetize everybody else is too tempting I guess.

Re: Study found that young adults have grown less hopeful and more angry about AI

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Post by wredcoll »

angelgonzales wrote: post #26

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> pressures of high taxes

This is something I never see mentioned so I'm curious what brought it up. Are you personally paying a lot of taxes or so much that you can't afford other things or is this a thing peers talk about? Is this a state or federal thing?

Re: Study found that young adults have grown less hopeful and more angry about AI

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Post by LPisGood »

dlev_pika wrote: post #17
justonepost2 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "businesses" created are thin wrappers that will get absorbed by the model companies faster than you can come up with them.

Look at the last 3 years of AI startups, and it’s crazy how the big guys are folding use cases into their platforms - I cannot be the only one wondering what’s the point of developing a tool only for OpenAI et all to just incorporate the same eventually. There is no clear boundary as to what the business of the big ones is.

I feel like people said the same thing about Apple for years.

Re: Study found that young adults have grown less hopeful and more angry about AI

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Post by HappyHacker731 »

richwater wrote: post #8

AI is just another disruptive technology like the loom, the steam engine or the airplane. It will take time to adjust and some industries will go away and others will pop up. I think a lot of people are conflating two ongoing things: the emergence of AI and stagnant (if not recessionary) economies across the globe. It appears as if AI is resulting in so much more negative externalities but in reality if not for AI, w…

> we'd 100% be in a recession

A little confused as to how exactly a handful of unprofitable companies are keeping us out of a recession? GDP is not the economy. We have been in a "recession" for a while now, not that that word even really means anything anymore.

Re: Study found that young adults have grown less hopeful and more angry about AI

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Post by nothinkjustai »

angelgonzales wrote: post #26

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Hah, I wish I had your optimism. I’m in the same boat re. the media and the pressing issues, but I just think AI is going to make things even more unaffordable for us, harder to find work, and used against us by governments who can afford the top models that might not even get released to the rest of us.

I saw the moon launch the other day, and in the past I would have been following and celebrating. These days I’m more preoccupied by the corruption in our government, including recent anti-democratic events (I’m not American).

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Post by gdulli »

richwater wrote: post #8

AI is just another disruptive technology like the loom, the steam engine or the airplane. It will take time to adjust and some industries will go away and others will pop up. I think a lot of people are conflating two ongoing things: the emergence of AI and stagnant (if not recessionary) economies across the globe. It appears as if AI is resulting in so much more negative externalities but in reality if not for AI, w…

> AI is just another disruptive technology like the loom, the steam engine or the airplane.

Or social media, or targeted advertising, or fast food.

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