Is it me or the last gif actually displays a bug? there is a brown car stuck in the middle and other cars are moving through it
How Pizza Tycoon simulated traffic on a 25 MHz CPU
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Re: How Pizza Tycoon simulated traffic on a 25 MHz CPU
#42Anyone know of any communities/game jams with the theme of "has no business running on such low hardware requirements"? Kind of like the demoscene but for games. There were many games growing up that gave me such a warped view of what was to be expected from the hardware. Battletoads, Crash Bandicoot, Marathon Trilogy (Macintosh), Age of Empires (Multiplayer), Roller Coaster Tycoon (of course).
'Micro Mages': https://morphcat.de/micromages/
Reminds me of this. I found their video that had a breakdown of some of what they needed to do to make a game fit on NES really fascinating!
Re: How Pizza Tycoon simulated traffic on a 25 MHz CPU
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s on GOG and Steam. Pizza Tycoon was the US market name, internationally it was released as Pizza Connection https://www.gog.com/en/game/pizza_connection https://store.steampowered.com/app/598990/Pizza_Connection/
At least in Finland it was also Pizza Tycoon https://www.pelit.fi/artikkelit/pizza-tycoon-2/
Yeah the DOS version was called Pizza Tycoon everywhere. The Amiga version was in German and was called Pizza Connection. Only for the digital re-release in 2017 did they go with Pizza Connection, but all the assets of the DOS version (including that re-release) call it Pizza Tycoon.
Re: How Pizza Tycoon simulated traffic on a 25 MHz CPU
#44Great! I'll finally be able to buy all commerce spots in Berlin (cheapest city) to avoid any competition, and _then_ open a restaurant. I used to deal only with "ice cream" (illegal weapons) trading, buying in one city and selling them on another, to quickly earn lots of money, and then buying commercial spots but never opening them (too much hassle, having to micro-manage shops). But after having bought about 200 or…
the most profitable pizza, pizza base + one (literally one) piece of minced tomato, yes you read that right, one “nico” of tomato
that pizza will set you back 0 USD because rounding error, the dough is free (if I remember well) and a bit of minced tomato is less than a rounding error, so effectively zero
then you sell the pizza for the lowest price
customers will hate it, but the price is so good
you don’t even need ice cream anymore
Re: How Pizza Tycoon simulated traffic on a 25 MHz CPU
#45"an open-source reimplementation of the 1994 DOS game"
I love that communities band together to keep these things alive and even thrive beyond the original.
Re: How Pizza Tycoon simulated traffic on a 25 MHz CPU
#46Anyone know of any communities/game jams with the theme of "has no business running on such low hardware requirements"? Kind of like the demoscene but for games. There were many games growing up that gave me such a warped view of what was to be expected from the hardware. Battletoads, Crash Bandicoot, Marathon Trilogy (Macintosh), Age of Empires (Multiplayer), Roller Coaster Tycoon (of course).
Frontier Elite (David Braben). A vast universe, with awesome space flight mechanics (gravity, etc), great graphics/audio, all fitting on one floppy disk. It was coded in assembly:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontier:_Elite_II
You could do the slingshot effect in it.
For older games, I would say the original Prince of Persia. I played it on an 8088 machine, and it was pretty impressive how he made the animations sophisticated and smooth.
Re: How Pizza Tycoon simulated traffic on a 25 MHz CPU
#47Anyone know of any communities/game jams with the theme of "has no business running on such low hardware requirements"? Kind of like the demoscene but for games. There were many games growing up that gave me such a warped view of what was to be expected from the hardware. Battletoads, Crash Bandicoot, Marathon Trilogy (Macintosh), Age of Empires (Multiplayer), Roller Coaster Tycoon (of course).
I've been enjoying seeing how far people have been pushing the Playdate's hardware.
Re: How Pizza Tycoon simulated traffic on a 25 MHz CPU
#48Great! I'll finally be able to buy all commerce spots in Berlin (cheapest city) to avoid any competition, and _then_ open a restaurant. I used to deal only with "ice cream" (illegal weapons) trading, buying in one city and selling them on another, to quickly earn lots of money, and then buying commercial spots but never opening them (too much hassle, having to micro-manage shops). But after having bought about 200 or…
the most profitable pizza, pizza base + one (literally one) piece of minced tomato, yes you read that right, one “nico” of tomato that pizza will set you back 0 USD because rounding error, the dough is free (if I remember well) and a bit of minced tomato is less than a rounding error, so effectively zero then you sell the pizza for the lowest price customers will hate it, but the price is so good you don’t even need…
I'm pretty sure you just described Little Caesar's Pizza business model. I recall way back they were $5 but even today here in California their large pepperoni is only $10 where competitors are charging $27-35
Re: How Pizza Tycoon simulated traffic on a 25 MHz CPU
#49By making the roads single-direction and roads owning the movement, I think it’s been made equivalent to a conveyer belt… which means factorio’s conveyor belt optimizations might be relevant. Eg storing the delta between items rather than tracking position directly, because the distance between cars is static for the length of the road, except during compression, insertion or removal of a car https://www.factorio.com…
The distance is not static because of cars stopping for one another.
That’s the compression, same story in factorio. Before/after compression it’s static, so you can avoid having to update any value.
The main difference from factorio belts I think is actually in the insertion — if there’s no room in the belt, insertion is blocked; whereas I’d expect a car to “slip in”.
But I think you can still say that maintains the property that a compressed belt will always be compressed, excepting insert/removal; and insertion/removal just requires updating a static number of deltas (2, in the middle of the line, 1 at the end of it)
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