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App Store sees 84% surge in new apps as AI coding tools take off

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Re: App Store sees 84% surge in new apps as AI coding tools take off

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To me this is fair. If you vibe code something and try to pass it off as your own work people will be angry about the deception.

Do you have to know Assembler to be able to write code in Java? With the point being that you rarely know the underlying mechanics - and the same if true for vibe coding.

This is not a good analogy.

Re: App Store sees 84% surge in new apps as AI coding tools take off

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102 year old chiming in: I was a software engineer in the 1970s and lost the will to program. After watching tech podcasts like the one from the author of the article, I vibe coded a calorie tracking app for my dog, which is in all app stores.

Life is fun again. I feel energized and productive with my intellectual wheelchair.

Re: App Store sees 84% surge in new apps as AI coding tools take off

#43

Instantly, I don't want to look at the App Store anymore.

Interesting, I made me think when was the last time I wanted to look at the App Store and it was… never? I mean I have to to install something, but I never go there just to window shop. (My kids do, but that’s because the games have video previews.)

Re: App Store sees 84% surge in new apps as AI coding tools take off

#44

So curation and marketing are going to become more important than ever. Which means influencers, tech bloggers, etc. are going to be seeing a lot more business coming their way.

...and they are going to use LLMs to generate their reviews ;)

Re: App Store sees 84% surge in new apps as AI coding tools take off

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I don't love seeing slop everywhere and I don't feel good about models being trained on people's hard work, but... I also have a hard time believing my work was ever much different. I've always regurgitated and synthesized existing solutions. I took them from open source examples. I read people's blogs. I'm basically a really slow LLM most of the time. Is that a form of deception too? I really wonder how much of a di…

No, building on top of other peoples work is fine. Taking credit for work you didn't do is not the same.

That's a valid take. I think there's substance to that claim. Maybe what I've been struggling with lately is how blurry the lines seem to be. When am I building on top of something, and when am I claiming credit I don't deserve?

Along these lines, an interesting category of work is when I have an LLM do something I could do myself. I totally understand the code, I instruct it all the way, I have it redo things, revise, rejig, etc... But I don't actually write any code. How responsible am I for any of that?

At work there are a ton of small scripts I use for piping data around ad-hoc, and this is often how I do it. Claude can make dumb pipes really well and remarkably quickly with reasonably clear specs given to it. I compose all kinds of specs, reports, plans, etc. using this workflow. And I find myself wondering... How much of this is me? How much credit do I deserve? The code is gone, the outputs remain, and I can't quite tell how responsible I am for the end product. It's a strange experience.

Re: App Store sees 84% surge in new apps as AI coding tools take off

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The world has been given hay making machines. Now people of all walks of life can make their own hay at a greater rate and with much less effort. They can also proudly display them along with other examples in centralized locations that conceptually take the form of haystacks. Also, I should add, the machines tend to make the hay with the color of a needle and with a needle shape.

This analogy almost works, except about a fifth the hay making machines' output is needles.

Re: App Store sees 84% surge in new apps as AI coding tools take off

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I've been watching the /r/cli and /r/tui subreddits for some time. The amount of vibe coded apps posted there just continues to climb. Some people in the comments for these apps can be quite rude when they read the description and find out its vibe coded. Nevermind how vile some can be when it's not in the announcement but the author lets them know down the line in the comments.

Ha! I got raked over the coals when I asked for some help in a vintage Apple subreddit. I described the problem, what I tried to do to solve it and at the very end I also mentioned that I asked AI and that it gave me an absurd answer. So many people just read the one line and gave me an earful.

Re: App Store sees 84% surge in new apps as AI coding tools take off

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My dad was a software engineer when he was younger, but his skills atrophied over the decades as he worked his way into upper management and spent all of his non work time caring for the family. For the past 8 years or he's had an app idea for something he wants himself on his phone that he's been dying to make, but just didn't have the means to do it. He tried no code/lo code options, but they were just to limited i…

I'm curious to check the app out, waking up with nature sound is the only alarm I tolerate!

+1, I’d love to see the app.
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