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Automatic registration for US Military draft to begin in December

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Re: Automatic registration for US Military draft to begin in December

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fiddeert wrote: post #21
Aboutplants wrote: post #5

I still don’t understand why, if they are having trouble with recruitment, they simply won’t raise the pay to entice more recruits? We have a seemingly unlimited budget for bombs but god forbid you pay for smart, qualified people willing to actually do the work. It is as simple as that and not anymore complicated

It's not a problem that money can solve. If you think it is, it's over. It wasn't that long ago that men would sign up for almost-certain death in defence of their families, their people, their nation. Recognise that young men have nothing worth fighting for now. There is a much larger issue that can't be solved by throwing a few more shekels at disillusioned mercenaries.

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Re: Automatic registration for US Military draft to begin in December

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Post by whattheheckheck »

ks2048 wrote: post #32
fiddeert wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not a problem that money can solve. If you think it is, it's over. It wasn't that long ago that men would sign up for almost-certain death in defence of their families, their people, their nation. Recognise that young men have nothing worth fighting for now. There is a much larger issue that can't be solved by throwing a few more shekels at disillusioned mercenaries.

The more history I learn, the more I see how big of a role mercenaries played in wars of the past.

In Game of Thrones (A Clash of Kings), Lord Varys poses a riddle to Tyrion Lannister involving three men—a king, a priest, and a rich man—each commanding a sellsword to kill the other two based on their respective sources of authority: law, gods, or gold. The riddle asks, "Who lives and who dies?" with the answer being that the sellsword decides, as he holds the physical power of life and death.

Varys reveals that power resides where men believe it resides, explaining that authority is a "mummer's trick" or a shadow that exists only because people accept the illusions of kings, priests, and the wealthy. While the sellsword physically survives to execute the killing, the riddle illustrates that true power is not inherent in any single figure but is created by collective belief and obedience.

The Characters: The king represents law, the priest represents religion, and the rich man represents wealth, while the sellsword represents the people or the military force. The Core Message: No matter how much gold, divine favor, or legal claim one possesses, their power is null without the belief and support of the common people. The Twist: Varys notes that the sellsword is "no one," emphasizing that power is fluid and can be seized by anyone who commands the loyalty of those with the means to enforce it.

Re: Automatic registration for US Military draft to begin in December

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Post by linzhangrun »

Spooky23 wrote: post #26
frugalmail wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was historically called "Department of War" then renamed to "Department of Defense" and of course, recently reverted to the original name.

It did not. The Trumpist "Department of War" is stupid branding. No law passed to change the name.

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Re: Automatic registration for US Military draft to begin in December

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Post by tbrownaw »

ehasbrouck wrote: post #19
frugalmail wrote: post #10

I'm for this, but what happened to equal rights? What about women?

The way to make women ad men equal with respect to the draft is to repeal the Military Selective Service Act, as supported by many feminists: https://hasbrouck.org/draft/repeal.html More on what femninists say about the dratt and draft registration: https://hasbrouck.org/draft/women/feminism.html

That's one possible approach, sure. If you're willing to blindly trust the unknown future to be fundamentally kind and uncontended.

Re: Automatic registration for US Military draft to begin in December

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Post by owlninja »

peyton wrote: post #24
owlninja wrote: post #6

> But former President Jimmy Carter in 1980 reinstated the Selective Service in the event of a “national emergency,” where the registry could be used to “provide personnel to the Department of War and alternative service for conscientious objectors, if authorized by the President and Congress.” Department of Defense*

Quit being obnoxious and have something of substance to say. It’s disrespectful to the author, senior defense reporter Ellen Mitchell, who is simply pulling from Selective Service’s materials.

It has not been the department of war since 1947, it is more disrespectful to me, the reader.

Re: Automatic registration for US Military draft to begin in December

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Post by yawpitch »

peyton wrote: post #24
owlninja wrote: post #6

> But former President Jimmy Carter in 1980 reinstated the Selective Service in the event of a “national emergency,” where the registry could be used to “provide personnel to the Department of War and alternative service for conscientious objectors, if authorized by the President and Congress.” Department of Defense*

Quit being obnoxious and have something of substance to say. It’s disrespectful to the author, senior defense reporter Ellen Mitchell, who is simply pulling from Selective Service’s materials.

Sorry, don’t you mean senior war reporter Ellen Mitchell?

Re: Automatic registration for US Military draft to begin in December

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Post by renewiltord »

Aboutplants wrote: post #5

I still don’t understand why, if they are having trouble with recruitment, they simply won’t raise the pay to entice more recruits? We have a seemingly unlimited budget for bombs but god forbid you pay for smart, qualified people willing to actually do the work. It is as simple as that and not anymore complicated

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Re: Automatic registration for US Military draft to begin in December

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Post by renewiltord »

owlninja wrote: post #6

> But former President Jimmy Carter in 1980 reinstated the Selective Service in the event of a “national emergency,” where the registry could be used to “provide personnel to the Department of War and alternative service for conscientious objectors, if authorized by the President and Congress.” Department of Defense*

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Re: Automatic registration for US Military draft to begin in December

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Post by PolygonSheep »

lfuller wrote: post #12
owlninja wrote: post #6

> But former President Jimmy Carter in 1980 reinstated the Selective Service in the event of a “national emergency,” where the registry could be used to “provide personnel to the Department of War and alternative service for conscientious objectors, if authorized by the President and Congress.” Department of Defense*

I found that strange as well. Who were they quoting, given that the Department of War hasn’t existed since 1947 and as far as I know Jimmy Carter didn’t pretend that it still did.

Is it just me or did the US get into a lot more foreign conflicts after they swapped "War" for "Defense" in the name?

Re: Automatic registration for US Military draft to begin in December

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Post by [deleted] »

frugalmail wrote: post #17
owlninja wrote: post #6

> But former President Jimmy Carter in 1980 reinstated the Selective Service in the event of a “national emergency,” where the registry could be used to “provide personnel to the Department of War and alternative service for conscientious objectors, if authorized by the President and Congress.” Department of Defense*

It was historically called "Department of War" then renamed to "Department of Defense" and of course, recently reverted to the original name.

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