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OpenAI says its new model GPT-2 is too dangerous to release (2019)

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I think they are right unintentionally. The growing amount of low-quality content everywhere could become a real problem.

Lol. The vast majority of content has always been low-quality. Those who believe that things were better before LLMs have selective memory.

Those who can't see a significant change in quantity also have selective memory

Re: OpenAI says its new model GPT-2 is too dangerous to release (2019)

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I think they are right unintentionally. The growing amount of low-quality content everywhere could become a real problem.

They were more than right. They were correct in an intentional, precise manner. This is what OpenAI actually stated[0]: > Synthetic imagery, audio, and video, imply that technologies are reducing the cost of generating fake content and waging disinformation campaigns. > ‘The public at large will need to become more sceptical of text they find online, just as the ”deep fakes” phenomenon calls for more scepticism about…

Yeah, I find it a bit odd how at the time everyone was pointing and laughing at OpenAI for being obviously wrong about this. Now in 2026, AI slop is very obviously a serious problem - it inundates all platforms and obscures the truth. And people are still saying OpenAI in 2019 were wrong?

Re: OpenAI says its new model GPT-2 is too dangerous to release (2019)

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post #32

I think they are right unintentionally. The growing amount of low-quality content everywhere could become a real problem.

Lol. The vast majority of content has always been low-quality. Those who believe that things were better before LLMs have selective memory.

The quality hasn't changed. The volume has. It used to take real human time to create garbage. There was value in that. Someone though "Hmm, what worthless thing can I do? I know! I'll make people online mad." And then they spent the time getting someone else's goat. It was great. A good balance, spreading lies took some minimum effort. Now we have automated garbage. And the flavor of the garbage is: gaslighting people with an illusion of community. We've empowered the trolls with an infinite meme-o-rater while ignoring the real human time spent unwillingly sifting through the ever increasing pile of worthlessness.

The world does not have to get worse. We're letting it though.

Re: OpenAI says its new model GPT-2 is too dangerous to release (2019)

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Someone needs to make a compilation of all these classic OpenAI moments. Including hits like GPT-2 too dangerous, the 64x64 image model DALL-E too scary, "push the veil of ignorance back", AGI achieved internally, Q*/strawberry is able to solve math and is making OpenAI researchers panic, etc. etc. I use Codex btw, and I really love it. But some of these companies have been so overhyping the capabilities of these mod…

Are you sure they are not just refusing to solve your UI bug due to safety concerns? They may be worried you'll take over the world once your UX becomes too good.

Re: OpenAI says its new model GPT-2 is too dangerous to release (2019)

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Someone needs to make a compilation of all these classic OpenAI moments. Including hits like GPT-2 too dangerous, the 64x64 image model DALL-E too scary, "push the veil of ignorance back", AGI achieved internally, Q*/strawberry is able to solve math and is making OpenAI researchers panic, etc. etc. I use Codex btw, and I really love it. But some of these companies have been so overhyping the capabilities of these mod…

> I am now just going to go through the (single file) of code and just fix it myself. That's front page news, in this era.

Thank you for the belly laugh.

Re: OpenAI says its new model GPT-2 is too dangerous to release (2019)

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They were more than right. They were correct in an intentional, precise manner. This is what OpenAI actually stated[0]: > Synthetic imagery, audio, and video, imply that technologies are reducing the cost of generating fake content and waging disinformation campaigns. > ‘The public at large will need to become more sceptical of text they find online, just as the ”deep fakes” phenomenon calls for more scepticism about…

Yeah, I find it a bit odd how at the time everyone was pointing and laughing at OpenAI for being obviously wrong about this. Now in 2026, AI slop is very obviously a serious problem - it inundates all platforms and obscures the truth. And people are still saying OpenAI in 2019 were wrong?

It's this crowd having it both ways. The default desire is to dunk on AI, however inconsistent the arguments.

Re: OpenAI says its new model GPT-2 is too dangerous to release (2019)

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They were more than right. They were correct in an intentional, precise manner. This is what OpenAI actually stated[0]: > Synthetic imagery, audio, and video, imply that technologies are reducing the cost of generating fake content and waging disinformation campaigns. > ‘The public at large will need to become more sceptical of text they find online, just as the ”deep fakes” phenomenon calls for more scepticism about…

Yeah, I find it a bit odd how at the time everyone was pointing and laughing at OpenAI for being obviously wrong about this. Now in 2026, AI slop is very obviously a serious problem - it inundates all platforms and obscures the truth. And people are still saying OpenAI in 2019 were wrong?

I think people today are more focused on how OpenAI released a model "too dangerous to release", not that they were right or wrong, as part of the general trend of criticizing OpenAI for not following any of its stated principles.

Re: OpenAI says its new model GPT-2 is too dangerous to release (2019)

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Someone needs to make a compilation of all these classic OpenAI moments. Including hits like GPT-2 too dangerous, the 64x64 image model DALL-E too scary, "push the veil of ignorance back", AGI achieved internally, Q*/strawberry is able to solve math and is making OpenAI researchers panic, etc. etc. I use Codex btw, and I really love it. But some of these companies have been so overhyping the capabilities of these mod…

> I am now just going to go through the (single file) of code and just fix it myself. That's front page news, in this era.

I understand how laughable that sounds when I say it out loud. But the reality is, when I'm in a state of 'Tell LLM what to do, verify, repeat', it's really hard to sometimes break out of that loop and do manual fixes.

Maybe the brain has some advanced optimization where once you're in a loop, roughly staying inside that loop has a lower impedance than starting one. Maybe that's why the flow state feels so magical, it's when resistance is at its lowest. Maybe I need sleep.

Re: OpenAI says its new model GPT-2 is too dangerous to release (2019)

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They were more than right. They were correct in an intentional, precise manner. This is what OpenAI actually stated[0]: > Synthetic imagery, audio, and video, imply that technologies are reducing the cost of generating fake content and waging disinformation campaigns. > ‘The public at large will need to become more sceptical of text they find online, just as the ”deep fakes” phenomenon calls for more scepticism about…

Yeah, I find it a bit odd how at the time everyone was pointing and laughing at OpenAI for being obviously wrong about this. Now in 2026, AI slop is very obviously a serious problem - it inundates all platforms and obscures the truth. And people are still saying OpenAI in 2019 were wrong?

Both crowds are right because two messages were spread. The researchers spread reasonable fears and concerns. The marketing charlatans like Altman oversold the scare as "Terminator in T-4 days" to imply greater capacity in those systems than was reasonably there.

The problem is the most publicly disseminated messaging around the topic were the fear mongering "it's god in a box" style messaging around it. Can't argue with the billions secured in funding heisted via pyramid scheme for the current GPU bonfire, but people are right to ridicule, while also right to point out warnings were reasonable. Both are true, it depends on which face of "OpenAI" we're talking about, researchers or marketing chuds?

Ultimately AGI isn't something anyone with serious skill/experience in the field expects of a transformer architecture, even if scaled to a planet sized system. It is an architecture which simply lacks the required inductive bias. Anyone who claims otherwise is a liar or a charlatan.

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