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Re: A whole civilization might die tonight

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post #25

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What are they supposed to do here, exactly?

Country wide strike would be a nice start.

One side controls all branches of the federal government and by and large it controls the media as well.

So how do you propose this strike happen?

Re: A whole civilization might die tonight

#43
post #16

This is what happens when there's no effective opposition. Where are the dems? Where's the press?

It's wrong to even frame this as a partisan question. When the leader of a democratic country threatens a nation of 90 million people with genocide, that should be the end of that government on that same day. Where is the entire US population? You hear nothing but crickets, what an utterly passive, terminally ill society.

Protests have been steadily breaking records each time they occur. Protests have been occurring across the country since he took office. This has all been widely publicized

Re: A whole civilization might die tonight

#44

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The fatal flaw in our separation of powers is that even if congressional dems had a super majority, congress is powerless to enforce anything. And the press has been covering Trump's rhetoric and the war pretty heavily.

So the "checks and balances" we were taught in school was just nonsense?

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Re: A whole civilization might die tonight

#46
Response from Iran: "Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) says it will respond outside the region and deprive the United States and its allies of oil and gas “for many years” if the US crosses “red lines” and attacks civilian facilities."[1]

"Iran has closed all diplomatic and indirect channels of communication with the United States, the state-run Tehran Times reported ..." US media does not seem to have picked up on this, but media in India and China have.[2] But the common source seems to be "Tehran Times", and it's unclear who runs that or where they get their info. New York Times, AP, and AlJazeera are not saying that. Xinhua has a one-line note with no source. The US White House says Vance is talking to somebody. Politico says Vance is on "standby".[3]

A negotiated cease-fire seems unlikely now.

[1] https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2026/4/7/iran-war-li...

[2] https://www.the-independent.com/bulletin/news/iran-mediators...

[3] https://www.politico.com/news/2026/04/06/vance-is-on-standby...

Re: A whole civilization might die tonight

#47
post #16

This is what happens when there's no effective opposition. Where are the dems? Where's the press?

Where are you?

What precisely are you doing other than posting stuff that pretends that a party in minority in both houses of Congress could actually stop a president, unless some politicians in the majority chose to join them.

And, as underwhelming as the press are, the facts are that surveys show that American's broadly disapprove of the war. Presumably because of what they have learned about it from the press and the opposition.

The people who are responsible are the people in power and their remaining supporters. Aided, arguably, by people who espouse cynical, self-soothing complaints that ignore what most people learn about civics in middle school.

Re: A whole civilization might die tonight

#48
post #32

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This is Israel's war and the American democrats have traditionally been very supportive. Last place to expect anything like what you are calling for.

No, this is now America's war. Israel has a part in it but the US is the main belligerent at this point and if Trump follows through on his threats he all but guarantees the downfall of the United States. This has gone way too far already and since the internal checks and balances of the United States appear not to be working it will be up to the rest of the world to draw a line. We can not afford to let this spiral…

The technical term seems to be: entrapment. The war could have ended after the first few "successful" days.

And still every day it continues, it becomes a little bit harder to back out. Like Vietnam, Iraq or Afghanistan this war cannot be won.

Re: A whole civilization might die tonight

#49
post #16

This is what happens when there's no effective opposition. Where are the dems? Where's the press?

I'd also ask what can we regular Joes and Janes do to avoid this disaster?

I can't think of anything other than going out and standing on a street with a placard. can we do anything better than that?

Re: A whole civilization might die tonight

#50
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is Israel's war and the American democrats have traditionally been very supportive. Last place to expect anything like what you are calling for.

No, this is now America's war. Israel has a part in it but the US is the main belligerent at this point and if Trump follows through on his threats he all but guarantees the downfall of the United States. This has gone way too far already and since the internal checks and balances of the United States appear not to be working it will be up to the rest of the world to draw a line. We can not afford to let this spiral…

> the internal checks and balances of the United States appear not to be working

There is one last test, but it's not until November. Until then, Trump is on a speed run to destroy everything he can

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