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Dropping Cloudflare for Bunny.net

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Re: Dropping Cloudflare for Bunny.net

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Post by rvz »

mhitza wrote: post #3

Unfortunately it doesn't offer free hosting for hobbyists. Even for superficial traffic you'll have pay 1 euro a month (plus VAT). Not many DNS management providers (that I'm aware of, please correct me) support CNAME flattening. That is having your A record point to a CNAME. Every time I purge the pull zone cache, I do it twice, cause once from my CI isn't enough. My CI does individual page cache invalidation during…

> Unfortunately it doesn't offer free hosting for hobbyists. Even for superficial traffic you'll have pay 1 euro a month (plus VAT).

?

So 1 euro a month is too expensive for you? Wow.

Just pay the 1 Euro or go to GitHub where that is free but goes down almost every week.

Re: Dropping Cloudflare for Bunny.net

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Post by joladev »

PUSH_AX wrote: post #27

This has to be an ad right? Affiliate link in the blog, non sensical reasoning for switching (single point of failure to... another single point of failure) etc

It's not, but I can see how it came across like that. I just wrote up my experience moving over, and I thought it was nice they had an affiliate link. I've cleaned it up and called out the affiliate link. Nothing shady intended.

Re: Dropping Cloudflare for Bunny.net

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Post by akdev1l »

kugelblitz wrote: post #38

I use bunny.net for CDN and DNS. I don't like free offerings, because what if they decide to charge someday? What if someone decides "free is not feasible, we start charging $20 per instance now". I'd rather have a low fee now, a change from $2 to $3 is more likely and that's fine for me. But from free to not free is risky for me. I also like smaller, independent-ish ompanies that actually care about developers. That…

>I don't like free offerings, because what if they decide to charge someday? What if someone decides "free is not feasible, we start charging $20 per instance now".

You can just move to another provider at that point. At least when it comes to CDN and DNS there’s literally no vendor lock-in.

You can grab your dns records export them to csv and import somewhere else easily and a CDN is just a file server so you can just give your files to someone else easily.

Re: Dropping Cloudflare for Bunny.net

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Post by Bender »

bakugo wrote: post #28
Bender wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be super nice to have a setup that uses multiple CDNs w/ automatic failover. Doable, but that removes all the free tiers of all the CDN's. AFAIK they all require an enterprise account to keep using ones own DNS and their own GSLB DNS failover. There are probably a few exceptions and one could maybe make something of that but I don't know which ones are the exceptions.

What other CDNs even have decent free tiers besides Cloudflare?

I don't know. I started to go down that path but all the CDN's that suggested some aspect of try before buying were in places outside of the US and had non US payment processors so I moved on to other projects. I doubt that there are many. I suspect Cloudflare only do it as a result of dual-use and that dual-use may be backed by tax dollars as there is no way a publicly traded company would give away massive network resources at a loss but that is my own conspiracy theory. i.e. an extension to Googles birds of a feather project. Capture most web traffic, most DNS traffic and learn who talks to who and why to form a risk map.

Re: Dropping Cloudflare for Bunny.net

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Post by Manchitsanan »

I'm currently running a SaaS on Cloudflare Workers + Pages. The developer experience is genuinely good, deploying serverless functions and static sites from the same repo has been seamless.

But I hit a real issue recently: CDN edge caching served stale HTML after a deploy, and the service worker cached the bad response. Took a CDN purge from the dashboard to fix. The debugging experience when things go wrong at the edge is painful, you're always guessing which cache layer is the problem.

That being said, the free tier is hard to beat for getting started. Workers, Pages, KV, R2 — you can run a full production app at near-zero cost until you hit scale. Not sure if Bunny offers that.

Re: Dropping Cloudflare for Bunny.net

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Post by shimman »

mhitza wrote: post #26
pdimitar wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Man, come on now, it's 1.20 EUR a month.

Of course it's nothing, but it's also not a set it an forget kind of thing, which in many ways for hobbyists is why cloudflare/github pages are nice.

Yes, it's nice to have a trillion+ dollar monopoly able to subsidize loss leaders to put your competitors out of business.

Re: Dropping Cloudflare for Bunny.net

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Post by hobofan »

BarryMilo wrote: post #16
mhitza wrote: post #3

Unfortunately it doesn't offer free hosting for hobbyists. Even for superficial traffic you'll have pay 1 euro a month (plus VAT). Not many DNS management providers (that I'm aware of, please correct me) support CNAME flattening. That is having your A record point to a CNAME. Every time I purge the pull zone cache, I do it twice, cause once from my CI isn't enough. My CI does individual page cache invalidation during…

Other commenters laughing at you for the price... It's not about the price it's about the barrier. Even if I love a service, I won't get very many people to try it if they need to enter a credit card.

It's also a barrier for education.

Almost all technological choices I made as a teen were driven by "what hosting can I get for free, as my parents sure as hell won't put down their payment information for that". Back then that usually meant PHP and a max. 50MB MySQL.

Re: Dropping Cloudflare for Bunny.net

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Post by mawalu »

evolve2k wrote: post #13
evolve2k wrote: post #7

I’ve mainly been using cloudflare for the very excellent (and free) premium DNS offering. Easy upload of bind test files Flattened CNAME to support naked domains Robust free role based permissions to add other ppl Anyone have suggestions for moving a stack of domains, many being little community and hobby projects away from cloudflare for a small overall price. Agency pricing like migadu offers for email on custom do…

I should add a friend has recommended DNsimple.com and I’ve previously found their service to be excellent. https://dnsimple.com/ 50 cents per domain per month 10 cents per million queries That’s prob cheap enough to support lots of little hobby sites and bigger traffic sites likely have some budget.

I used them in the past (many years ago) and was very surprised when my DNS was affected by a cloudflare outage. Turns out (back then) they relied on the cf network for DoS protection against their resolvers[1]. I was surprised to learn that and honestly thought that if I already take a dependency on cloudflare I might as well have them host my zones directly for free.

[1] Not completely sure but I think this was the incident https://blog.dnsimple.com/2020/07/incident-dns-resolution/

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