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Bernie Sanders: "AI Is a Threat to Everything the American People Hold Dear"

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Re: Bernie Sanders: "AI Is a Threat to Everything the American People Hold Dear"

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Not a Bernie supporter, to put it mildly, but to be fair he has never called himself a communist. Making up BS doesn't help.

Sure has done a lot to support communism for someone that has never called himself a communist: https://nypost.com/2016/01/16/dont-be-fooled-by-bernie-sande...

My god dude. This is an opinion piece from the New York Post, which is a truly bottom of the barrel rag. Why are you posting this? You can plainly see how hard they are stretching the truth here. An actual anti-communist Republican already explained how stupid this article is [1].

They call the United Packinghouse Workers Union a communist organization, which is a flat out lie. The UPWA was a mainstream CIO (later AFL-CIO) union. It wasn't even among the unions the CIO purged in 1949 for being communist-led. By the time Bernie was involved in 1964, the union had formally banned communists from holding office under the AFL-CIO Ethical Practices Code, and Martin Luther King Jr. literally sat on the commission overseeing that compliance. The union is famous historically for its civil rights work, not for being a communist front.

They said Eugene Debs was "arrested for espionage" which is a lie. He was arrested for being critical of the Wilson administration. It was under the "Espionage act," but it was not espionage, just good old-fashioned arresting people for speaking their mind. They neglect to mention Debs refused to join the Communist party when they split off from the Socialist party.

They implied the Young People’s Socialist League was a communist organization, when it was extremely anti-communist.

They said the "American People’s History Society" was an organ for Marxist propaganda, but there's absolutely nothing to suggest that. They are implying this organization had a long history of spreading communist propaganda and that the Eugene Debs film is further evidence of that. But that's not the case. They just made a Eugene Debs film, which by itself, doesn't really rise to the level of Marxist Propaganda. He was a socialist, and an important figure in American History. Or is American History just supposed to cover the Carnegies of the world?

It's funny to watch people pearl clutch over a politician championing workers rights because it might overlap slightly with the politics of a distant revolution while we have a sitting President that kills citizens, bombs children's hospitals, jails journalists, and publicly salivates over the idea of inflicting retribution on anyone left of the alt-right. This is concern trolling at it's finest.

[1] https://pjmedia.com/ron-radosh/2016/01/18/no-new-york-post-b...

Re: Bernie Sanders: "AI Is a Threat to Everything the American People Hold Dear"

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wow why are so many comments in this thread against Bernie's stance?

HN will flag and downvote anti AI sentiment. There is lots of it here, you just aren't allowed to see it.

I posted Bernie's "Conversation with Claude" a while back, and it was just about immediately taken down.

Let's face it Y combinator is mostly AI startups for the next few years, and any anti-AI sentiment is going to hurt the bottom line.

That being said, I disagree with Sanders on a number of points. He wants to stop data center construction. Can't think of a more luddite un-nuanced solution to the "problem"

The real AI danger is not the threat to white collar jobs (which will simply have to evolve), but something we will see roughly 18 months now when Joe Schmo asks Claude Giga Max Supreme 8.0 to help him reduce his taxes, and it hacks into the IRS and deletes everyone's records.

Re: Bernie Sanders: "AI Is a Threat to Everything the American People Hold Dear"

#44

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HN will flag and downvote anti AI sentiment. There is lots of it here, you just aren't allowed to see it.

I posted Bernie's "Conversation with Claude" a while back, and it was just about immediately taken down. Let's face it Y combinator is mostly AI startups for the next few years, and any anti-AI sentiment is going to hurt the bottom line. That being said, I disagree with Sanders on a number of points. He wants to stop data center construction. Can't think of a more luddite un-nuanced solution to the "problem" The real…

You think there won’t be any taxes in 2028-2029 because of AI?

Re: Bernie Sanders: "AI Is a Threat to Everything the American People Hold Dear"

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Not a Bernie supporter, to put it mildly, but to be fair he has never called himself a communist. Making up BS doesn't help.

He honeymooned in USSR. Which is a rather odd place to honeymoon in 1988. But yes, he never explicitly said he was a communist, but just someone that wants to seize the means of production.

He literally said “I don’t believe government should take over the grocery store down the street or own the means of production.”

https://pjmedia.com/ron-radosh/2016/01/18/no-new-york-post-b...

Re: Bernie Sanders: "AI Is a Threat to Everything the American People Hold Dear"

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It's extremely prevalent in Canada as well; almost certainly even more so. It's really a North American thing. I expect copious downvotes with no actual replies. Then the comment will be flagged by the bot armies so the administration here can preserve its dearly held national identity of being "diverse" while never having elected an ethnic minority PM.

I would expect more downvotes for your needless "I'm going to get downvoted because the sheep hate when wolves tell the truth!" persecution complex. Your comment was at least mildly interesting before you got to that.

Re: Bernie Sanders: "AI Is a Threat to Everything the American People Hold Dear"

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I posted Bernie's "Conversation with Claude" a while back, and it was just about immediately taken down. Let's face it Y combinator is mostly AI startups for the next few years, and any anti-AI sentiment is going to hurt the bottom line. That being said, I disagree with Sanders on a number of points. He wants to stop data center construction. Can't think of a more luddite un-nuanced solution to the "problem" The real…

You think there won’t be any taxes in 2028-2029 because of AI?

Just an example off the top of my head

Re: Bernie Sanders: "AI Is a Threat to Everything the American People Hold Dear"

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wow why are so many comments in this thread against Bernie's stance?

Posted when Silicon Valley was awake and on a break from the Easter Monday working hours.

I don't understand what you mean - is this sarcasm directed at me or the Bernie disagreers?
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