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Advice to young people, the lies I tell myself (2024)

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Re: Advice to young people, the lies I tell myself (2024)

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My advice is: Don’t let someone else control your life. Switch occupation every 2 years, even if you find a great environment. Don’t chase, for what you need must come to you. Understand no one can give you the answers you seek; you have to live it.

2 years of job hopping is almost a death sentence in some countries.

In my country, it would certainly be odd, so it would raise questions. Would not be a showstopper, though we would definitely carefully consider hiring.

Re: Advice to young people, the lies I tell myself (2024)

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Fair to say unlucky people are skeptical/pessimistic/realistic and lucky people are naive/optimistic? If yes, the question is why? What came first? Their luck or their perspective? Maybe a couple instances of things working out tips the scales early in life!

> Fair to say unlucky people are skeptical/pessimistic/realistic and lucky people are naive/optimistic? Optimism vs pessimism is basically only a valid framing in very neutral times. If things really are significantly tilted towards up or down, then you either notice that or you don't, and only framing that makes sense is realism vs confusion/delusion

> and only framing that makes sense is realism vs confusion/delusion

I think it's very hard, if not impossible, to have objective realism. We all have a tilt. Most people are probably a bit deluded. The frameworks of pessimism and optimism maybe work given the broad inability to have objective realism?

Re: Advice to young people, the lies I tell myself (2024)

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My advice is: Don’t let someone else control your life. Switch occupation every 2 years, even if you find a great environment. Don’t chase, for what you need must come to you. Understand no one can give you the answers you seek; you have to live it.

if you change jobs despite being in a great environment, aren't you chasing something? if you follow this advice, don't you let the advice control you?

in particular for jobs, if you think that jobs are controlling you (which is not unreasonable) then switching jobs is not helping you to escape that control.

if you don't want to let someone else control your life you need give up your traditional career and become a freelancer. i did that. i had jobs too in between, but only when they helped me advance my own goals.

Re: Advice to young people, the lies I tell myself (2024)

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post #43

My advice is: Don’t let someone else control your life. Switch occupation every 2 years, even if you find a great environment. Don’t chase, for what you need must come to you. Understand no one can give you the answers you seek; you have to live it.

if you change jobs despite being in a great environment, aren't you chasing something? if you follow this advice, don't you let the advice control you? in particular for jobs, if you think that jobs are controlling you (which is not unreasonable) then switching jobs is not helping you to escape that control. if you don't want to let someone else control your life you need give up your traditional career and become a…

Yes, it’s contradictory to some degree. On purpose. That’s part of living it.

My “advice” is also US-centric, where I have observed time and again what truly leads to one getting their fair share.

Freelancing is a way to achieve this.

Re: Advice to young people, the lies I tell myself (2024)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Fair to say unlucky people are skeptical/pessimistic/realistic and lucky people are naive/optimistic? Optimism vs pessimism is basically only a valid framing in very neutral times. If things really are significantly tilted towards up or down, then you either notice that or you don't, and only framing that makes sense is realism vs confusion/delusion

> and only framing that makes sense is realism vs confusion/delusion I think it's very hard, if not impossible, to have objective realism. We all have a tilt. Most people are probably a bit deluded. The frameworks of pessimism and optimism maybe work given the broad inability to have objective realism?

I'm not talking about people's personal predispositions / decision strategies per se. I'm talking about the outcome-based labels that we stick on them after the fact.

Make a table where the world is 3-valued (up/down/neutral) and our subject is only 2-valued (up/down), you'll see what I mean. World up, person down: person is wrong/confused. World up, person up: person is correct/realist. Optimistic / pessimistic roles only work when the world is neutral. This is very silly of course; that's what I'm trying to point out.

In terms of discussing personal predisposition we need to address whether the individual uses strategy to determine appetite for risk, accepts and integrates feedback or doesn't, etc. But yeah.. a completely generalized and non-situational predisposition based on no trends in evidence, on no expected-value considerations, ignoring feedback.. is also called confused or delusional. Notice that the outcome doesn't matter here actually. Intent does matter.. if you're trying and failing to evaluate evidence properly, suffering from imperfect info, you might still be realist. Realists aren't perfect, they just try to align with what is real

Re: Advice to young people, the lies I tell myself (2024)

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Choosing is a big one. Something I learned later in life about emotional maturity and controlling your emotions is that it's just choosing to feel an emotion. Like, feeling angry for longer than I needed because I didn't know how to make the choice to feel happy or calm. Of course there's more nuance to it but I agree with choosing

Emotions are not controllable or choosable but our reactions to them are trainable. One good technique for this is mindfully observing and labelling the emotion until it goes away; not trying to change it but also not acting on it. With practice one can observe the emotion subsiding within a minute or so. This, eventually, leads to less emotional reaction overall because we're taking away the habitual pattern of the…

You are controlling your emotions with that technique, accepting and waiting emotions out is just not the only option.

Getting indoors from a cold rain is an obvious choice. I can't really decide to stop shivering, but changing my clothes and grabbing a hot chocolate helps. It still takes a while to warm back up, meanwhile I can actively choose not to open windows or go right back in the rain.

Re: Advice to young people, the lies I tell myself (2024)

#47

My advice is: Don’t let someone else control your life. Switch occupation every 2 years, even if you find a great environment. Don’t chase, for what you need must come to you. Understand no one can give you the answers you seek; you have to live it.

2 years of job hopping is almost a death sentence in some countries.

You can also "job hop" internally if you want to stay at the same company but want a new experience. The thing about huge companies is that they're huge! You can switch to a team that functions completely differently from the team or org that you were in before.

Re: Advice to young people, the lies I tell myself (2024)

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Choosing is a big one. Something I learned later in life about emotional maturity and controlling your emotions is that it's just choosing to feel an emotion. Like, feeling angry for longer than I needed because I didn't know how to make the choice to feel happy or calm. Of course there's more nuance to it but I agree with choosing

No, people are not choosing emotions. You can show them or not, but it is not true that one "chooses" them.

A popular perspective is that emotions are the result of quick analysis of a situation, trained on survival instincts originally but later mostly pattern matching and beliefs. By observing emotional reactions you can drill down to the underlying belief, and over time adjust to new circumstances. For example, based on this theory, anger is the result of an analysis that determines that something is deemed wrong and it is within your power to change it (or extract yourself from the situation). If it’s judged to be not within your power, the resulting emotion is sadness. And these judgments can be changed to have a different emotional experience - beyond feeling them or acting on them. This adjustment requires to identify the original deep pattern/beliefs, not just surface-level desire to do so. This introspection typically requires third party assistance, available in various therapeutic and coaching settings.

Re: Advice to young people, the lies I tell myself (2024)

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Every job I’ve ever gotten has been cold apply, with no degree except a GED high school diploma equivalent. You can certainly get jobs through cold apply, I get a job offer for basically every job that gets to the interview, even when I hadn’t worked as a dev I had two job offers I had to pick from. I like to think my passion, knowledge, and genuine interest shines through in my cover letters and my interviews.

When did you last do that? I’ve heard from multiple friends that the job market has completely collapsed in the last couple of years & that it’s much tougher than in the past.

For me it is more curiosity about what they are doing. If you work in the same field you should be able to have a chat. If it doesn't flow you can't work there if you get along perfectly it would be dumb not to hire you.

Re: Advice to young people, the lies I tell myself (2024)

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The reality is that nothing in life can be trusted but everything can be modeled. For example, you never know what a driver going 60 miles/hr will do, but you do know that the laws of physics say that the driver can’t suddenly go backwards. Once you figure this out, you realize you can work through absolute chaos because you can work with black boxes. It doesn’t matter if the media is lying. For example, the source m…

Sure, but I think the media mostly misleads through omission and shifting the focus. It seems trivial, but on a national or global scale, so many things happen that it becomes a powerful force. Every day, the media ignores millions of events that happened in the country. It only reports on a few hundreds. The way it chooses what is important give it massive power. Every day, some politicians somewhere act in a corrup…

Sure but I think it’s more a deeper structural problem.

When in human society have we had access to information at this rate? Yes there are bad people but there were have always and will be bad people (like people selling crock medicines 200 years ago).

We’re in this situation because it’s a brand new problem (information density) and we are still looking for a solution. I mean we now have a way to ensure medicines you buy are reasonably vetted, but it took us a while to figure that one out.

It just sucks that we have to live during the times where we haven’t figured it out, but there’s always going to some new problem grappling human society.

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