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Post by buckle8017 »

exe34 wrote: post #21
buckle8017 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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It's impressive how the US intelligence agencies must have been gutted under Trump. I'm guessing if there were anybody competent left, this is the kind of thing they would have known. I can't imagine the level of secrecy it would take to hide something like this from a competent NRO - the amount of construction work, the little girls coming and going - what did they think, it was a military Epstein island?

They've hit about 8000 targets.

One in 8000 is incredibly good for an actual conflict.

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Post by mcphage »

vkou wrote: post #14
tokai wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why make up unsubstantiated claims about Chinese support, when it is known that Russia supports Iran with military hardware?

Russia's pretty busy with its own war.

And what better way to support that by making some money selling weapons, especially if it gives you a chance to expand your manufacturing base due to increased demand?

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Post by helsinkiandrew »

There’s a tweet by Radigan Carter from a few weeks ago that has a great historical perspective - If you’re not interested on the possible financial outcomes skip to the “How This Started” section.

https://x.com/radigancarter/status/2035073252134129757?s=46

>In Shia theology, standing against injustice is obligatory especiallywhen you cannot win in conventional terms. Defeat and death are not failure, capitulating in the face of overwhelming injustice is the failure.

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Post by vrganj »

Johanx64 wrote: post #26
vrganj wrote: post #22

This whole war has already been a weird suicide ritual when it comes to American soft power. I guess hard power is next. The American Empire, burnt down by its own Nero/Caligula hybrid, while the population just watches it happen...

What do you think American Empire is all about if not controlling the oil rich countries in middle east, as well as extremely oil rich countries like Venezuela? The only failing here is that America has decaying, hallowed out industrial base where it can't just cheaply mass produce and replenish hi-end rockets and tech to take care of business-as-usual quickly, because everything down to raw materials is just so expe…

Oil itself is becoming irrelevant quickly. It's a play for becoming king of the ashes.

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Post by constantius »

vrganj wrote: post #22

This whole war has already been a weird suicide ritual when it comes to American soft power. I guess hard power is next. The American Empire, burnt down by its own Nero/Caligula hybrid, while the population just watches it happen...

Genuine question for Americans: donyou not think that a Democrat today would be leading the same war? We're talking about a party that facilitated, and took part in, 1 year of genocide.

In what world could you imagine Israel's planned war against Iran not being automatically supported by whatever US party was in power?

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Post by fabian2k »

constantius wrote: post #45
vrganj wrote: post #22

This whole war has already been a weird suicide ritual when it comes to American soft power. I guess hard power is next. The American Empire, burnt down by its own Nero/Caligula hybrid, while the population just watches it happen...

Genuine question for Americans: donyou not think that a Democrat today would be leading the same war? We're talking about a party that facilitated, and took part in, 1 year of genocide. In what world could you imagine Israel's planned war against Iran not being automatically supported by whatever US party was in power?

The default US policy tends towards starting wars in the middle east. But even very hawkish previous administrations never started this particular one, for the reasons we're seeing right now. So I strongly doubt a Harris administration would have.

You're also ignoring just how far outside the norms Trumps administration is. They're entirely dysfunctional, breaking all kinds of laws and full of unqualified extremist with their own agendas.

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Post by adventured »

prmph wrote: post #29
vrganj wrote: post #22

This whole war has already been a weird suicide ritual when it comes to American soft power. I guess hard power is next. The American Empire, burnt down by its own Nero/Caligula hybrid, while the population just watches it happen...

I guess now would be a good time for China to make its move on you-know-who.

Not just yet, they should wait for a little bit. The US isn't done depleting its inventory yet, the US might get itself in a lot deeper yet, and the US population will only detest the war even more given time. All of those things will help China take Taiwan. If Iran gets ugly enough the US population will just have that much less willingness to get involved in another major conflict. 3-18 months for Taiwan (9-18 more likely; China still needs some prep). There's no scenario where China isn't going to successfully take the island after this. They now know the US isn't at all prepared to stand off with them in coastal Asia. It would take years of surge production to get ready, the US doesn't have years re Taiwan.

If China is going in, we'll start to see large signs of that. They'll begin a number of prominent campaigns, including sabotage, propaganda, extremely large supply movements, and so on.

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Post by _aavaa_ »

sheikhnbake wrote: post #31
vrganj wrote: post #22

This whole war has already been a weird suicide ritual when it comes to American soft power. I guess hard power is next. The American Empire, burnt down by its own Nero/Caligula hybrid, while the population just watches it happen...

> while the population just watches it happen... About 1/5 of America voted for this guy after seeing the trainwreck of his first admin. At the same time, protests response is continually growing and breaking records as economic disparities and totalitarian responses intensify.

Looking at all Americans in deceiving. For starters, 1/5 are below the voting age.

49.8% of voters voted for this.

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Post by Jamesbeam »

Just leaving this here. Feel free to compare it to current reality.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/2025-N...

"President Trump has cemented his legacy as The President of Peace."

"Stopping regional conflicts before they spiral into global wars that drag down whole continents is worthy of the Commander-in-Chief’s attention, and a priority for this administration. A world on fire, where wars come to our shores, is bad for American interests."

"The key to successful relations with the Middle East is accepting the region, its leaders, and its nations as they are while working together on areas of common interest."

"America will always have core interests in ensuring that Gulf energy supplies do not fall into the hands of an outright enemy, that the Strait of Hormuz remain open, that the Red Sea remain navigable, that the region not be an incubator or exporter of terror against American interests or the American homeland, and that Israel remain secure."

"But the days in which the Middle East dominated American foreign policy in both long-term planning and day-to-day execution are thankfully over—not because the Middle East no longer matters, but because it is no longer the constant irritant, and potential source of imminent catastrophe, that it once was. It is rather emerging as a place of partnership, friendship, and investment—a trend that should be welcomed and encouraged."

Next time you look at the gas price when topping up your car think about this strategy was either hallucinated by your administration or AI.

I am not sure what is worse.

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Post by thisislife2 »

constantius wrote: post #45
vrganj wrote: post #22

This whole war has already been a weird suicide ritual when it comes to American soft power. I guess hard power is next. The American Empire, burnt down by its own Nero/Caligula hybrid, while the population just watches it happen...

Genuine question for Americans: donyou not think that a Democrat today would be leading the same war? We're talking about a party that facilitated, and took part in, 1 year of genocide. In what world could you imagine Israel's planned war against Iran not being automatically supported by whatever US party was in power?

You are being downvoted for stating the truth - you are absolutely right that the Democrats too would have fully supported Israel's attack on Iran. Let us not forget that Biden played a major role in Israel's ongoing genocide in Gaza (and now in West bank) by helping the IDF spread its propaganda hoax that "Hamas beheaded babies", in the western media (Biden lied that he had personally seen the "horrific pictures " - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas_baby_beheading_hoax ). Of course, unlike Trump, a Democratic party administration would have resorted to hypocrisy and propaganda that the war was for "democracy", "human rights", "save jews", "fight terrorism" etc. etc. But it would have been much shorter - they would have killed the Iranians leaders too, and struck military targets and then stopped.
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