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Re: r/programming bans all discussion of LLM programming

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There can't be any interesting discussion about AI programming. Every conversation boils down to what skill files you use, or how Opus 4.6 compares to Codex, or how well you can manage 16 parallel agents.

There genuinely is a lot of interesting discussion to be had about LLMs, and I know this is true because I discuss things with my coworkers daily and learn a lot. I do admit that conversation online about LLMs is frequently lacking. I think it's a bit like politics - everyone has an opinion about it, so unfortunately online discourse devolves to the lowest common denominator. Hey guys, have you noticed that if you us…

    if you use LLMs frequently it's possible you'll forget to think critically?
Nowadays, you can have a sub-agent to think critically for you. ;)

Re: r/programming bans all discussion of LLM programming

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I know this snarky, I'm sorry ahead of time. But I don't know how else to make this point...

The fact that the people running r/progamming don't know not to wait until April 2 to publish this tells me that they don't have real-world experience in shipping software in a business environment.

We are SO past the point of software being developed without LLMs at _all_, the trend line is never going to reverse. I don't understand the people digging in as zero LLM absolutists.

Re: r/programming bans all discussion of LLM programming

#45

There can't be any interesting discussion about AI programming. Every conversation boils down to what skill files you use, or how Opus 4.6 compares to Codex, or how well you can manage 16 parallel agents.

That isn't why /r/programming banned it. They banned it because every discussion about LLMs inevitably devolves into discussions about AI slop in varying levels of civility, and the rare good LLM submissions/discussions do not offset it.

Other tech-adjacent subreddits such as /r/rust have banned LLM discussion for similar, more pragmatic reasons.

Re: r/programming bans all discussion of LLM programming

#46

There can't be any interesting discussion about AI programming. Every conversation boils down to what skill files you use, or how Opus 4.6 compares to Codex, or how well you can manage 16 parallel agents.

This is far too negative and reductionist

Like saying theres no interesting discussions about programming. Just whether OOP is overhyped, python is slow, how well you can convert a c codebase to rust

Re: r/programming bans all discussion of LLM programming

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HN should also limit all these self-promoting AI posts.

See dang’s comments on https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47340079 . (That link itself is a submission about HN’s recent guidelines changes to include “Don't post generated comments or AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans.”)

I interpreted the GP as "personal blog posts about AI/LLMs", not LLM-generated comments.

Re: r/programming bans all discussion of LLM programming

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post #44

I know this snarky, I'm sorry ahead of time. But I don't know how else to make this point... The fact that the people running r/progamming don't know not to wait until April 2 to publish this tells me that they don't have real-world experience in shipping software in a business environment. We are SO past the point of software being developed without LLMs at _all_, the trend line is never going to reverse. I don't un…

> I don't understand the people digging in as zero LLM absolutists.

Relevant read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite

I feel like it’s easy to understand what’s motivating these individuals to take that stance.

Re: r/programming bans all discussion of LLM programming

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/r/horsecarriage bans all discussion of cars /r/assembly bans all discussion of 4GL LLM programming isn't going away by not talking about it. It's time to move on, and eventually considering farming.

> /r/horsecarriage bans all discussion of cars

Makes sense. If I'm looking to read discussions about stables selection, feed prices, etc, why would discussions of spark plugs be relevant?

> /r/assembly bans all discussion of 4GL

Also makes sense; people wanting to discuss register allocation, bit twiddling, etc probably aren't interested in insurance claims taxonomies or similar.

> LLM programming isn't going away by not talking about it.

Right, but is the context still /r/programming? After all, there are tons of subreddits you can go to to discuss LLM programming. Why do you need to shove it into a space created for human thoughts on programming?

> It's time to move on, and eventually considering farming.

Okay, understood, but my question still stands - why conflate programming with viber-coding?

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